These are amazing — and shockingly accurate. Did you know there’s a “Bechdel test” for female scientist biographies?
You must know… surely, you must know it was all for you. You are too generous to trifle with me. I believe you spoke with my aunt last night, and it has taught me to hope as I’d scarcely allowed myself before. If your feelings are still what they were last April, tell me so at once. My affections and wishes have not changed, but one word from you will silence me forever. If, however, your feelings have changed, I will have to tell you: you have bewitched me, body and soul, and I love–I love–I love you. I never wish to be parted from you from this day on.
Pride & Prejudice (2005) dir. Joe Wright
Do you think Bens redemption would have worked without Reylo?
In terms of just his character in isolation, sure, he was very, very easy to write a redemption for because the telegraphing of it was laid on so thick and there are so many characters who want to help him. He’s never had any conviction in the Dark Side, he just needs to be shown he has inherent value, forgiveness is possible, and the choice is open to him. It is much more effective with an outsider building a new relationship because his family are the ones who failed and betrayed him, he never stopped loving them but he doesn’t trust them. However, you could do it, it just wouldn’t be as fresh or as impactful. It’d be more of a rehash and less of an actually relevant and valuable addition to the overall saga.
In terms of the larger story, if this is supposed to be a sequel and it’s supposed to be part of the Skywalker saga, if Rey isn’t the one to save him with unconditional love then she has no business whatsoever being the protagonist of the trilogy. Romantic Reylo was absolutely necessary to make this a coherent, thematically consistent narrative given the set up of TFA. It was absolutely necessary to Rey’s arc even if you didn’t care about them ruining Star Wars.
If not for Reylo, the best way to write a ST about Leia’s failure to reconcile with Vader causing a new darkness would be to write the story from Ben’s pov with him as sole protagonist and directly mirror Anakin’s prequel arc. Ending with reunion with his mother instead of separation and renewal of the relationship with father and mentor (Han and Luke) instead of a severing, the family unit healed. He would have to be very young for this to work without it feeling like an incomplete story which needs further coming-of-age for him where he becomes an adult. Whereas romance allows clear and obvious growing up, forging of the new family.
Rey’s existence as the protagonist was justified by the need for an outsider to step in where familial love had failed to save the fallen scion, and it would nicely balance the tragic romance of Anakin and Padmé with a healing romance. There’s an implied next generation and full mythic closure. If you’re not doing that, her presence doesn’t make sense. There is literally no remotely acceptable version of the replacement child narrative, and the family shouldn’t be childless because that destroys the symbolism of the OT. Having Han and Leia’s love be barren is mythically inappropriate.
People don't want to admit TLJ wasn't perfect either. Rian gave way too much screentime to the side characters and their storyline. I love Kelly, but even Rose had more screentime than Adam, the protagonist, who played the Skywalker in the Skywalker Saga. FinnRose took over the "Reylo" screentime. The main romance. Literally. Rian directed Leia as an ignorant mom who cares more about Poe then her own child. Pple give him too much credit. Kylo even had less s.time in TLJ than in TFA ffs🙏
I’m not one of those people. I’ve always said that TLJ isn’t perfect, you can scroll back, but it was genuinely good, thoughtful, and sincere which is more than can be said for the rest of the st. It’s thematically on point, it understands sw, it’s full of life, and it made it briefly appear that LF knew exactly what they were doing with the basic emotional outline even if the execution could have been a lot better.
I’d just… have to take issue with some of your reasoning. Ben is the thematic centre of the story, but he was not the protagonist. Rey is the protagonist. We can discuss why she isn’t a good protagonist and why she has no business being the protagonist if the point of her journey isn’t to save Ben (the Skywalker) with unconditional love, but that inarguably is her position in the narrative.
I agree he should have had more screentime, though quantity isn’t everything. The weight of his presence dominates the entire Force plot and drives all of Rey’s character development, so it feels like he has more content than he actually does, but definitely a few more intimate moments would have greatly benefited the story. I’m not going to rail on Rian too much for the structural issues the film has, because he was written into numerous corners by the slapdash nature of TFA which left him a lot of difficult problems to solve and he was obviously trying to be as respectful as humanly possible both to his predecessor and his successor. He left the plot wide open and trusted LF to finish the character arcs he’d built without having their hands tied, which he shouldn’t have in retrospect. He was trying to have TLJ be its own film with its own identity as well as backinterpreting TFA into coherent arcs for both the OT characters and the new characters and it’s too much to deal with.
Leia treats Poe like what he is- a subordinate whom she likes. There’s no competition to be drawn between that relationship and her feelings towards Ben- she is not Poe’s mum and doesn’t ever act like his mum. I’ve discussed the lack of intimacy between Ben and the OT characters a couple times, but TLJ is still a massive improvement over TFA, a lot of it is again inherited structural wonkiness, and if she were to reach out to him a third time there’d be no final movie because he would have come home. The Ben/Leia and Ben/Luke relationships are set up to be fleshed out/resolved later as Ben becomes more receptive and able to consider forgiveness, they just never were.
Some of this is also a problem with how sw movies work, what their priorities are and how they treat serious drama (as giant tableau moments, not with psychological realism), and I’m not going to single TLJ out for something that is consistent across the entire franchise. He could have done more, but if the foundation had been strong he wouldn’t have had to and he shouldn’t have had to (for Leia, that is, we can blame him for the lack of emotional content in Luke’s relationship with Ben, but the film already spends huge amounts of time on Luke and it’s not feasible for him to discuss this with Rey so I can see the dilemma he must have had). The main emotional threads being in separate post codes was a hard thing to overcome without having Leia just sit down and exposit about her feelings. This would have been solved by a good third film that brought the threads together in the first act.
The Fathier chase is too long and that would be time better spent on nearly anything else, won’t argue there. But Rose is a key character who gives the thesis statement of the film and her substantive screentime is not misplaced. Less substantive stuff could have been trimmed, sure.
The whole st is… unfocussed… and there was only so much that could ever be mitigated by anyone coming in after the fact, no matter how talented. Under the circumstances, I find TLJ’s weaving of straw into gold very, very impressive and I am going to keep giving Rian a tonne of credit for that.
Breakfast Across the Globe
BY FAR THE SEXIEST POST ON THIS SITE
and the most important one…Jamaican Breakfast
Followed by a Haitian breakfast
Ethiopian breakfast 💚💛❤
Nigeria breakfast 🇳🇬
The one post that everyone can agree on….that food is sexy.
Just ate and now I’m hungry again
Comfirmed: Breakfast is the best meal of the day NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE.
if you dont have me on facebook you are probably not missing out on any posts but the comment section is important too lmao
I went to the Renaissance faire dressed as a warrior. I had a real sword with me, too. I was standing (in character) next to a sword-fighting ring, where kids of all ages got the chance to pick up a sword and challenge the champion. Some woman walks by, with her little girl. The girl starts walking towards the ring, saying she wants to fight. But the mom pulled her away hella sharply, and was like, “That’s for boys.” You don’t want to be a BOY, do you?” And the girl looked around and saw me. I think she thought I was a boy; I had my hair in a ponytail, and was wearing a hood. So she comes up to me and asks me, “Do you think girls can be fighters, too?” And her mom looks like she’s silently gloating. Like she thinks I’m going to say no. So I take off my hood, untie my hair so that it flows freely, and kneel before her. And I’m like, “Milady, anyone can be a fighter.” I swear, the look on that mother’s face made my day.
This post was good but then it got better
Okay, this is a slight topic diversion, but in response to the above comment. I’ve volunteered at the CT Ren Faire for years now. For the last 5 or so I’ve worked in the game section, and we have a game similar to the above comment called “Smite the Knight”. I’ve been in the ring before, it’s a ton of fun getting to run around with the kids. The main goal is entertainment. Have a good shtick, keep the crowd engaged, and let the kids have a good time.
In both work and observing, I have learned something about kids. A lot of parents try to get their boys to go fight. Of the young ones that do, they tend to be shy. You get the ones who just swing the boffer swords around with no regard for life, but, mostly, they’re reserved. It’s adorable. I mean, they’re kids.
But the girls. THE GIRLS. Holy crap. I swear, the pinker the dress, the more taffeta and glitter…the more intensity. I remember, the first year I worked there, one girl came in, grabbed the biggest sword she could, and WENT TO TOWN on our knight. Lifted it over head, let out this primal scream and mowed him down. Homeboy is 6′2″, she was FIVE. And once he was in the fetal position (He was fine. It was for show.) on the ground, she stopped, put her foot on his chest, and yelled “I AM A FIERCE PRINCESS!!”. Later in the day when she walked by a couple of us yelled “Ah! It’s the fierce princess!” and she stopped and flexed. It was the best, and I will never forget that girl.
OH MY GOD IT’S BACK YES
This has improved since last I reblogged.
I taught karate for like 5 years, and the girls were always, pound for pound, better than the boys. Even the girls who didn’t really want to do it and were only there because their parents made them were better than like 95% of the boys.
I was playing fiddle at a ren faire, and two little girls were really enjoying our set. After quite some time one of them walked up to me and shyly offered me her star tinsel tiara, because she “didn’t have any money. And this protects you from trolls!” I said “Thanks, that’s really sweet – but what about you? Don’t you need protection from trolls?”
At which point this six-ish-year-old girl whips out her certificate from the axe throwing booth and says “Nah, I’m fine.”
I still have that tinsel tiara. It’s draped over my modem. I figure it’ll protect me from the most trolls that way.
I am not in the habit of reblogging a post and slapping an “it got better” on there BUT I SAY GOTDAMN
the thing you gotta understand about little girls is that they’re under so much pressure and have so little leeway from adults, that given half a chance, they can and will throw hands with total abandon.
When you realize that all the adults that told you growing up that rough housing and shit was for boys and too rough for little girls, that really they were trying to stop you from realizing early on what kind of raw primal power you had hidden under that tutu for fear that once you realized the truth your parents would no longer be able to contain your power…
I’ve got a 3 year old niece and I’m already convinced she’s going to be an MMA fighter…
As soon as I’m able I’m actually gonna try out sca fighting stuff so this is literally gonna be me someday lol
Female SCA heavy fighter here. YES JOIN US!!!! WE NEED MORE SWORD SISTERS!!!!!!!
I’m planning on it!! Shieldmaidens assemble!
How Avatar: The Last Airbender, the Star Wars Original Trilogy, and Medici: The Magnificent are all the same story.
Emphasis on how Medici tells the story as a tragedy and why it’s still a satisfying and successful ending. Lorenzo completes his Hero’s Journey in spite of dying at the end of the series.
“The sin is not being successful or being rich. The sin, I think, is somehow mythologizing yourself once you get there that you’ve been playing on a level field, that you haven’t benefited from any of the inherent biases in the system and that anyone who isn’t in there must not be working as hard as you did. And then realizing that you also got there because you got help. If you’ve made it to a certain place in life, whether it’s about either money or position or status or whatever, it’s your turn to help, especially the people who the system doesn’t treat fairly.“
- Rian Johnson (director of Knives Out) on privilege during an interview with the Los Angeles Times
People watch tragedies on purpose. People watch stories about hope on purpose. Pulling the rug on the narrative promise of your story and switching tracks isn’t clever or interesting, it’s just lying about the genre.
If Midsummer Night’s Dream ended with everyone brutally dying, I’d feel kind of betrayed. If Macbeth ended with everyone getting happily married, I’d also feel kind of betrayed.
Yes! You have to earn your ending. They’re not supposed to be twists. They have to be built to throughout the story
You need to have the payoff match the kind of investment you set your audience up with.
And just to be clear: having that payoff match your investment doesn’t mean you can’t do a narrative twist. It just shouldn’t be a genre twist.
Bruce Willis turning out to have been a ghost all along does not change the tone of the movie. It just added a bunch of really interesting layers and depth to what you already saw.
Hector turning out to be Miguel’s ancestor doesn’t change the family genre of the film, it enhances it.
Planet of the Apes turning out to be a futuristic Earth where humanity had destroyed itself deepens the existential sci-fi dread but it doesn’t turn it on its head.
These are narrative twists, sometimes surprises, but they are not genre upsets. They are storytelling tools. Done well, they can be spectacular and add a lot to your story.
But genre-shifting out of the blue and for no other reason than “haha, gotcha!” shock value is not clever or intelligent. In most cases, it’s just sort of mean.
Setting expectations with your audience then laughing at them when they trust you doesn’t make you a good storyteller. It makes you a bit of a jerk.
So reblogging this again because I want to talk for a second that you actually can change genres in the middle of the story. It just has to make sense!
I only can think of two instances off the top of my head that make this genre flip works; Disney’s Mulan and Shirley Jackson’s The Lottery. They’re both well told stories, but make a genre flip work for very different reasons.
For Mulan, just as “A girl worth fighting for” ends, a completely different movie begins. Up until that point, it’s been a fun upbeat Disney musical, but after you come across this ravaged by war town, there’s no more sing a longs. This is no longer a musical Disney movie, this is now a period piece. And this works. They’re able to make the genre flip from a musical to a period drama because they already set the threads of a period drama running underneath the happy go lucky musical ever since we learned that Mulan’s father was going to be sent off to war despite his injuries.
Alternatively, we have The Lottery. A short story that starts out with a group of people getting together. We learn it’s for an annual ‘lottery’ and everyone seems completely normal, chattering about normal things, adults complaining about adult things, kids running around and playing. Nothing really seems unusual at first. We have absolutely no idea that it’s a horror story until the final twist where it goes from being slice of life to physiological thriller. As everyone grabs the rocks and begins beating down on the poor woman, we look back over the rest of the story and notice the clues we didn’t see before- the kids were gathering rocks, the father being so serious with his grim son. The horrible twist works because the story is just short enough we can’t sure what genre it is until it’s too late.
I also want to talk for a moment about one of my favorite movies, Anastasia- the 1997 film from Fox Animation Studios. Like Mulan, Anastasia manages to be both a period drama and a musical, but unlike Mulan, Anastasia seems to be fighting itself over which genre it actually is. It sets the story up as a period piece and threads throughout the movie, completely unknowingly to the protagonists I might add, a darker fantasy musical. It’s a good movie, and it’s an extremely satisfying ending to watch, but the genres twist themselves into pretzels and it’s the musical romance plot line that wins out. So, it works as a genre twist, but it only works because both genres were present at the same time, so regardless of which it ended on, the story would still make sense.
So genre twists can work, and if you can pull it off, it can work very well. But, as previously stated, you have to put elements of the genre twist into the story before you make the twist. Otherwise all you’re really doing is patting your own ass over how Clever And Special you are for taking the easy way out and writing a bad story.
Hilda by Duane Bryers
in this family we love and support Hilda.
What i love about this artist’s depictions of women is even the sexualized ones the woman is always genuinely happy and enjoying herself. Frolicking or making funny faces, she’s living her life and looking sexy while doing it, not sitting in a sexual pose for the audience’s view.
I always forget about Hilda and am so pleased when she randomly shows up on my dash. Always makes my day
I love Hilda so much and I want her to be happy
I freaking love Hilda, there’s needs to be more art like this.
I will never not reblog Hilda
I’m not sure whether I should laugh or cry.
Is OP aware that oh so many books exist on this subject?
And that almost universally the ones authored by people with doctorates in classicism and mythology disagree with OP?
Including the… epic hymn that first told this story? You know what’s in that original source material… right?
Demeter mourned? Definitely.
So here’s some info on Ancient Greek wedding traditions which (oh my stars and garters!!) included abducting the bride. With the father’s permission, which Hades got before he took her away.
Here’s a whole book on the subject of Ancient Greek wedding custom and its conflation with funeral rites. (Which sounds a bit like Hades and Persephone to anyone who’s ever dabbled in things like explication and context)
Holy pug tacos Batman!!
All these fucking books! What could anyone possibly do with them all?!?!?!?! Do you eat books to absorb their powers instead of read them?
A better guess would be that you got into a moral panic over the name of a certain Renaissance statue and maybe after reading three pages of Edith Hamilton or the first paragraph of a Wikipedia article. And then used that to castigate and demean not only the people who actually take their limited time to create gorgeous art but also to denigrate modern day worshippers of Persephone and Hades?
Maybe next time, you stringy piece of over-boiled okra, you might want to take your own advice and pick up a book, instead of reducing the feared and respected Queen of the Underworld who held power equal to or in many interpretations GREATER than her husband into a meaningless pastiche of female disenfranchisement that you seemingly plucked from your own ass.
JESUS CHRIST THANK YOU
I don’t often reblog posts of people getting owned, but when I do…
man the ancient greeks didn’t dare to speak persephone’s name she was that powerful and venerated (they called her Kore, “the maiden”), hades didn’t get that honour
Rebagel for those book links, I find the Persephone and Hades stuff on here fascinating and I want to research it more
Book links, owning and the sheer badassery that is Persephone.
Reblogging for the links until this misapprehension finally ceases.
EDIT: Finally put together a bibliography of scholarly works about Hades and Persephone with the help of @coloricioso to help refute these old, tired accusations: https://honorthegods.tumblr.com/post/174794576611/honorthegods-hades-and-persephone-side
Reblogging for everything but especially this inventive insult:
All those princesses like Cinderella and Snow White who must endure grief and trouble and sorrow are the perfect illustration for me of “Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God, and he will exalt you in due time; casting your cares upon him, for he cares for you.” It’s the fairy tale verse I think. That’s what fairy tales are about.
I’m obsessed with how so many of Yennefer’s costumes are about being trapped, captured, a prisoner: She has the cage dress, the rope dress, and the furry quarry-for-the-hunt dress. And her only light and free look (the sparkly white dress) is for when she’s making love to Geralt, OR she’s completely naked, indicating she can be her true self with him.
It’s very unsubtle and on-the-nose but it totally works.