#dont wanna think abt the thing. i really dont want to. idk how or why but i read something and i associated it with the Bad. #so im leaving again. bye angels <3 #jackietxt#personal
I just noticed that Dany was left without knowing any Targaryen/family besides her abusive brother. She won’t met maester Aemon, because he died on the way to meet her. She doesn’t know there was still family alive willing to meet her. She believed she was alone all the way.🥺
And say whatever you want about Jon. He is more Stark than Targaryen, it is not the same.
This is one of the many reasons (besides being potentially OOC, but I won’t get into that issue here) why Dany’s story (in the books) being made an outright tragedy - like how D&D tried to do in the show - would be highly problematic considering the negative messages it would send.
Not only because Dany is the protagonist of the storyline that’s most explicitly about fighting against human oppression (without any fantasy metaphors to make it more palatable), not only because Dany is the sole female Christ figure and Chosen One of ASOIAF, not only because Dany is the sole female claimant to the Iron Throne (and who isn’t doing anything morally wrong in comparison to the Starks or any other noble family by also being willing to fight for her birthright) in the main story, not only because Dany comes after a long line of Targaryen women who were denied power (which was an issue highlighted in 2018’s F&B) and is specifically the first female Targaryen conqueror (which would only make her downfall more frustrating), not only because Dany is already a Good Queen who doesn’t fall into the Good Princess Evil Queen dichotomy and the only one of the two female rulers whose tenures we saw unfold onpage portrayed as competent, not only because Dany has been carving her own path for a long time apart from the negative legacy of her father (unlike, say, her foil Cersei) and brother by choosing to protect the ones who can’t protect themselves regardless of heritage, lands or feudal ties (unlike, say, her foils Stannis and Young Griff or any feudal lord in general), but also because yeah, as the initial post notes, Dany is an orphan girl who’s lived in poverty without a reliable caretaker through all of her formative years. Many people assume that she’s doomed partly because of that - after all, unlike the Starks (who are bound to go back home and find each other), Dany was never able to find a sense of belonging and safety anywhere. In their opinion, then, her inability to find a home will cause her downfall. But then, her story would send terrible messages to women, abused children and immigrants who find themselves similarly misplaced.
Now, of course, this is a fictional story written by one man that already has plenty of problematic implications. However (and I know I may be giving GRRM too much credit), considering that Dany has always been portrayed sympathetically (specifically as a positive political influence), that the author is very much aware of how she’s been unfairly treated because of her gender and that he’s highlighted how the abuse and mistreatment she’s enduredshaped her views on kingship, Dany’s tragic life circumstances are actually a major reason why I remain (very) cautiously optimistic about her ending. With them, GRRM has made it so Dany can never have an unambiguously happy ending even in the best possible outcome. Even if Dany were to end up in a position of power (which is what certain people think would be “too happy” and “unlike GRRM”), she will still have (much like the Starks) her childhood stolen from her. She will probably feel like she let her people in Slaver’s Bay down (because she is bound to leave soon) like she already does. She will probably not find herself at home in Westeros (we haven’t witnessed the injustices and petty struggles taking place there so that her high expectations of it end up being validated, after all). With all these complications in mind (which I think the author is aware of), a tragic ending to her story would not only have negative implications (already discussed above), it would be overkill (“a tragic ending” also includes the theory that she will sacrifice herself in the War for the Dawn. It’s jarring to think that the same man who had one marginalized character defend another marginalized character’s right to live by saying that “death is so terribly final, while life is full of possibilities” would think of Dany’s sacrifice as bittersweet in any way… This theory is not impossible to happen, but it’s worth noting that it was made and is supported by people who think that a Targaryen restoration is a Disney ending and don’t view a Stark restoration in the same critical manner). With all these complications in mind (which I think the author is aware of), we might actually get a happier (but still bittersweet) ending for Dany in the books - there is, after all, foreshadowing for her to end up in a position of power with a husband and a living child.
Re: Jon, while he’s the son of Rhaegar and is very likely to become Dany’s husband and the father of her child(ren) (though I also don’t ship Jonerys and happen to think that there’s romantic subtext for Jonrya that will never become text), it doesn’t change the fact that he was raised in the North by Ned Stark alongside his children and that his storyline has him struggle with and be marginalized due the fact that he’s Ned Stark’s bastard. Jon subverts the Hidden Prince trope because his actual parentage doesn’t really matter (and most likely never will on a political level) to his character arc, whereas Dany is the one who we’ve seen struggle onpage with the knowledge that she’s the Last of Her Kind and the one with the most significant connection to Rhaegar and to Elia and their children and to Aegon the Conqueror">aegontheconquerorwithteats:
I just noticed that Dany was left without knowing any Targaryen/family besides her abusive brother. She won’t met maester Aemon, because he died on the way to meet her. She doesn’t know there was still family alive willing to meet her. She believed she was alone all the way.🥺
And say whatever you want about Jon. He is more Stark than Targaryen, it is not the same.
This is one of the many reasons (besides being potentially OOC, but I won’t get into that issue here) why Dany’s story (in the books) being made an outright tragedy - like how D&D tried to do in the show - would be highly problematic considering the negative messages it would send.
Not only because Dany is the protagonist of the storyline that’s most explicitly about fighting against human oppression (without any fantasy metaphors to make it more palatable), not only because Dany is the sole female Christ figure and Chosen One of ASOIAF, not only because Dany is the sole female claimant to the Iron Throne (and who isn’t doing anything morally wrong in comparison to the Starks or any other noble family by also being willing to fight for her birthright) in the main story, not only because Dany comes after a long line of Targaryen women who were denied power (which was an issue highlighted in 2018’s F&B) and is specifically the first female Targaryen conqueror (which would only make her downfall more frustrating), not only because Dany is already a Good Queen who doesn’t fall into the Good Princess Evil Queen dichotomy and the only one of the two female rulers whose tenures we saw unfold onpage portrayed as competent, not only because Dany has been carving her own path for a long time apart from the negative legacy of her father (unlike, say, her foil Cersei) and brother by choosing to protect the ones who can’t protect themselves regardless of heritage, lands or feudal ties (unlike, say, her foils Stannis and Young Griff or any feudal lord in general), but also because yeah, as the initial post notes, Dany is an orphan girl who’s lived in poverty without a reliable caretaker through all of her formative years. Many people assume that she’s doomed partly because of that - after all, unlike the Starks (who are bound to go back home and find each other), Dany was never able to find a sense of belonging and safety anywhere. In their opinion, then, her inability to find a home will cause her downfall. But then, her story would send terrible messages to women, abused children and immigrants who find themselves similarly misplaced.
Now, of course, this is a fictional story written by one man that already has plenty of problematic implications. However (and I know I may be giving GRRM too much credit), considering that Dany has always been portrayed sympathetically (specifically as a positive political influence), that the author is very much aware of how she’s been unfairly treated because of her gender and that he’s highlighted how the abuse and mistreatment she’s enduredshaped her views on kingship, Dany’s tragic life circumstances are actually a major reason why I remain (very) cautiously optimistic about her ending. With them, GRRM has made it so Dany can never have an unambiguously happy ending even in the best possible outcome. Even if Dany were to end up in a position of power (which is what certain people think would be “too happy” and “unlike GRRM”), she will still have (much like the Starks) her childhood stolen from her. She will probably feel like she let her people in Slaver’s Bay down (because she is bound to leave soon) like she already does. She will probably not find herself at home in Westeros (we haven’t witnessed the injustices and petty struggles taking place there so that her high expectations of it end up being validated, after all). With all these complications in mind (which I think the author is aware of), a tragic ending to her story would not only have negative implications (already discussed above), it would be overkill (“a tragic ending” also includes the theory that she will sacrifice herself in the War for the Dawn. It’s jarring to think that the same man who had one marginalized character defend another marginalized character’s right to live by saying that “death is so terribly final, while life is full of possibilities” would think of Dany’s sacrifice as bittersweet in any way… This theory is not impossible to happen, but it’s worth noting that it was made and is supported by people who think that a Targaryen restoration is a Disney ending and don’t view a Stark restoration in the same critical manner). With all these complications in mind (which I think the author is aware of), we might actually get a happier (but still bittersweet) ending for Dany in the books - there is, after all, foreshadowing for her to end up in a position of power with a husband and a living child.
Re: Jon, while he’s the son of Rhaegar and is very likely to become Dany’s husband and the father of her child(ren) (though I also don’t ship Jonerys and happen to think that there’s romantic subtext for Jonrya that will never become text), it doesn’t change the fact that he was raised in the North by Ned Stark alongside his children and that his storyline has him struggle with and be marginalized due the fact that he’s Ned Stark’s bastard. Jon subverts the Hidden Prince trope because his actual parentage doesn’t really matter (and most likely never will on a political level) to his character arc, whereas Dany is the one who we’ve seen struggle onpage with the knowledge that she’s the Last of Her Kind and the one with the most significant connection to Rhaegar and to Elia and their children and to Aegon the Conqueror and to House Targaryen.
And the monsters at our door…the unholy relicts of this Conjunction? …the trolls…the corpse eaters…the werewolves? Did we raise our swords against them? Or have we laid this burden on others? On so-called witchers? Stray children taught the ways of foul sorcery, their bodies mutated through blasphemous ritual. Sent to fight monsters though they could not distinguish good from evil. The flicker of humanity long extinguished within them. Yes, their numbers have dwindled through the years. But a few still roam our lands, offering their bloody work for coin. To this day they shame us with their very existence!
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