Eren has always been obsessive over the band No Name. Well more to the point, he is completely obsessed with their sexy singer L. Will Eren ever find out the identity of the star that seems to have stolen a piece of his soul? Levi has always been the lone star on stage. Well better said, L only sees his fans as pawns for his own amusement. Will L discover the pawn he picked is in fact a queen before it captures his heart? As they start the ascend to the climax, memories and mysteries will start to unravel and reveal what was actually lost and what was truly found.
Ereri/Riren. Mature yaoi and graphic content in later chapters.
the ‘winter’ segment of the various/akashi dj S×S×A×W by monica
sighs deeply i’ve done a bunch of knb djs throughout the last year and i’ve been really hesitant to upload them but here’s one with akashi and furifuri furihata //////
Please do support the doujinka by buying a copy if you can!!
Had some down time during work at the hospital today. Haha. So I finished translating this AkaFuri dj. I hope the Anon who asked for an AkaFuri & everyone else who reads this enjoys it! I personally think it’s adorable^^
Alex takes the boys to Victoria’s secrets with her, Himuro becomes very good at choosing out bras, and Kagami is shocked that transparent panties exist
this is bold coming from someone who tried to use someone’s suicide attempt as a gotcha against antis… and then lied about that person not being an anti anymore lmao
anyway, oppress fujoshis
consuming mlm content is not remotely comparable to treating mlm like “sinful uwu babies” to fawn over and fetishise, especially when those example of mlm are usually derived from problematic media like yaoi which fetishises and romanticises rape and abuse ?? there’s nothing wrong with consuming mlm content; but there is definitely something wrong with treating mlm as toys for you to pick up and play with whenever you want because you think their relationships are ‘sinful’ and ‘uwu yaoi’
op learn what words mean challenge epic fail
“op learn what words mean challenge epic fail”
you know, i thought i hit the limit on the funniest shit ive seen all day, but there’s always someone dumber.
And if you’re too lazy to click on it, which you must be if you’ve really never in your goddamn life heard this before:
That’s FU for rot/ruin/decay/fermentation and JOSHI for woman, and the word ends up being a pun related to the Japanese word for “respectable wife” - why?
Because it was made up by homophobic misogynistic Japanese nationalists online complaining about how women were ruining their media by making it gay, and were therefore also unsuitable for marriage.
That’s what “fujoshi” means. Notice how it says nothing about behaviour? Because it says nothing about behaviour.
You know what does actually describe the kind of behaviour you’re talking about?
‘Homophobe’ does.
Next time instead of appropriating and bastardizing a Japanese word, use the one you already have. Unlike ‘fujoshi’, that actually means the kind of people you’re describing, by definition.
And while I’m here.
sin/sinning/sinful: a reference to any kind of self-indulgent pleasure, can be used in reference to anything society would disapprove of you enjoying.
In a fandom context, it is most commonly seen used for nsfw content of any type of ships. In my and several others’ personal experience, used most in m/f ship fandoms.
Either way it’s not a term being used in the Japanese m/m community and has no ties to fujoshi outside of the occasional correlation between ‘westerner who identifies as fujoshi’ and ‘western shipping community slang/trends’.
So I’m gonna go ahead and assume you really just mean BL, but didn’t know what these words meant, which
BL: the Japanese category of fiction focusing on m/m romance, most famously comics, but also anime, games, novels, etc. Literally just as varied as any other LGBTQ+ fiction, if not more, considering there’s just so much of it in Japan. I can personally attest that it’s got everything from hardcore kink porn to the softest most wholesome first-crush-stories ever.
So you wanna talk about how the most mainstream category of m/m fiction in Japan “fetishises and romanticizes rape and abuse“? Be my guest, but don’t be surprised when people call you a) racist, or b) a hypocrite for not pointing out that ravishment fantasies in general aren’t unique to BL, but are also common in shoujo, ladycomi, and josei (other genres aimed towards women, mostly m/f), and geicomi. (Which, don’t be too shocked now, is the genre of m/m fiction mostly made by and marketed to gay men.)
And if, after this, you still keep insisting that fujoshi are white cishet fetishistic “sin moms” or whatever, and that “that’s what fujoshi means”, then you’re literally just fucking lying.
Not to mention partaking in cultural appropriation and lowkey racism and misogyny.
oliveragainstpedos learn what words mean challenge epic fail.
twice ironic because OP was actually right.
so since @oliveragainstpedos apparently blocked me after reaching for the stars for excuses to not have to stop appropriating a term from a foreign subculture, i’m respond like this. just the fact that they’ve seemingly blocked me though says quite a bit about not wanting to own up despite knowing.
really long post ahead. i’m so sorry to anyone on mobile. there was originally a readmore but it broke.
mhmm………………………
yeah, except
fujoshi is still being used with the original definition in Japan, and the “morphing” of the meaning is entirely forced by westerners, so.
this isn’t natural development or language, and it’s certainly not adopting, it’s appropriation.
…and frankly it’s even more hilarious that you didn’t mean BL. I just told you what yaoi is. I added sources. “Yaoi”, as a stand-alone thing, as opposed to a mislabeling of BL, is an old doujinshi genre known for it’s plotless fluff. The genre of exclusive harm and stereotyping that you’re trying to describe as yaoi doesn’t exist in Japan. BL is marketed to women and often written by women, BL has unrealistic portrayals and abusive behaviour. Just as much as it has male authors and male readers and wholesome and healthy portrayals. There IS no separate genre of ‘filth’.
Also:
(And OGN and UGH are also both considered BL by Japanese standards. The sites calling it yaoi are mostly western scanlation sites, which are the main perpetrators of the mislabeling. They’re all professionally published aka not doujinshi aka none of these would generally be considered yaoi by their countries of origin.)
And should I repeat again? They didn’t define themselves as rotten. They reclaimed it, à la “if shipping m/m ships means we’re too ruined for marriage, then we’re fine with that”. if someone is misunderstanding the context and meaning of “rotten”, then they’re probably young enough to be corrected and willingly learn.
And i now realize i must not have made the following clear enough. When people still said sinful (which isn’t a whole lot nowadays, for the same reasons you’re upset with it), they were referring to themselves. They were sinning by enjoying something sexual. The nsfw content was sin because it was nsfw. (And sometimes overly sweet and fluffy content was ‘sin’ in an ironic way) A lot of the people that even said sinning were LGBTQ+ themselves and poking fun at the fact that their local church would disapprove. So here, i’ll repeat one more time: ‘sinning’ was almost never used to mean in reference to someone being gay, it was used in reference to something being sexual. “for being gay” you say, except it mostly wasn’t for being gay. I get feeling like it was an insensitive joke to make in the first place, but it ever referring to being gay and not being ‘horny on main’ is just false. (in any significant sense anyway - there’s outliers everywhere)
And as I said, it’s already fallen out of usage. The first and last time I actually saw it being used on this site was almost exactly 4 years ago.
And there it is again. This site.
“Fujoshi” is still being used exclusively as ‘female shipper of m/m’ in it’s country of origin. The people on American websites are not and will not ever be the ‘vast majority’ of self-identified fujoshi, because fujoshi is a term actually native to Japan. That’s where it’s an actual part of the vocabulary, where it was born, where the subculture has grown around it. The world extends beyond what you’ve personally seen on your corners of the internet. The vast majority of fujoshi are Japanese, and currently using that word the way I defined it for you up there. That’s where the definition comes from in the first place - current Japanese fujoshi communities. Last I heard, they were appalled that the term was being slandered like this.
And I can guarantee you that the people who identify as fujoshi (or fudanshi, or fujin, which are terms you’re entirely glossing over too) on this website don’t mistreat real gay men like this as much as you think. If that much at all. (Tbh I’m more concerned about the kpop community atm.) The ones acting cringy or creepy are 99% teenagers who haven’t learned any better yet, but can (by, yknow, actually telling them which behaviours to stop, not what to stop calling themselves), and they are far from the majority of fujoshi worldwide.
And yknow, if this discourse stayed on this corner of the internet, if it never affected anybody outside it, I probably wouldn’t care this much. I probably wouldn’t write two whole essays to you in particular and more to others.
But that’s not what’s been happening, is it.
Instead it’s being co-opted by TERFs who feel ridiculously at home calling trans men “just gross fujoshis fetishizing gay men so bad that they actually wanna become one” (which in turn encourages trans gay men to become more and more misogynistic in an attempt to ‘prove’ that they’re nothing like that). It’s being co-opted by racists who are happy to get another chance to shit on Japanese people for “all being creepy pedophile perverts”. Misogynists and homophobes are having a jolly good time watching women get shat on just like when ‘fujoshi’ was first coined. (And I have witnessed these more in the past 4 years than I have witnessed ‘sinning’ irt m/m ships. That’s basically as good as a personal anecdote of course, but it’s definitely not nothing.)
And actual Japanese people not doing anything wrong are being affected because they’re using it the way they defined it and y’all are using it in accordance with western slash fandom relics. One of the people working on Yuri On Ice!!! got hate online for referring to herself as a fujoshi.
When your definition is based entirely on a definite minority of the group, and is contradicting the active definition set by the majority of the group, the ones who reclaimed the insult in the first place,
then that’s not the natural development of language. It’s not justified. It’s bastardization, and it’s playing into the hands of people who are glad to target huge groups of innocent people knowingly.
And altogether very few people outside of the malicious ones actually benefit from where this discourse has gone. The people who know what fujoshi means continue using it as usual, except for when they’re harassed to the point of not. The ones who act creepy act the same as always, except they’re not calling themselves fujoshi. (Ironically, I’ve seen more of the people who mockingly accuse others of being ‘gross fujoshi’ act weird about real people who resemble their cartoon ship.) Not even the Japanese gay men have been happy about this, as if they were some monolith in the first place. For every “I’m an asian mlm and fujoshis should kys” anon, there’s another one going “actually I don’t give a shit what you read or what you call yourself as long as you treat me normally”, and even “for fuck’s sake please stop shitting on an asian fandom in our name already”.
It’s not some sort of rightful crusade. You’re not helping the LGBTQ+ rights movement by demonizing a majority-asian fandom based on western fandom’s mistakes.
And when you look at a post about how the term is being misused and misunderstood, and you respond by accusing OP of misunderstanding the term, while actually misusing and understanding that same term… One of us missed the point here, yeah, and the other is just grasping for reasons to keep acting the same after being called out on the bullshit.
So I repeat.
Call a homophobe a homophobe.
There is no reason for you to appropriate ‘fujoshi’.
‘Homophobe’ fulfills the purpose better and doesn’t require you to reach to the stars to justify turning asian people into targets.
Because this:
so yes, it’s absolutely understandable to want to oppress those people. and those people identify themselves as fujoshi.
This is not actually okay.
You’re forcing a whole new horrible definition of fujoshi, and in turn making targets out of an already-marginalized group!
Shocking, I know, but women, especially in Japan, are in fact marginalized.
And it only becomes more awful when you consider that around half of them are also LGBTQ+ themselves.
Proof of TERFs co-opting anti-fujo bullshit to be transphobic little shits (even longer long post warning ahead):
Everytime I see dreamyluigi and hmsh-hetrophobia I lose faith in humanity. They keep using terfy mcswerfy punchlines and refuse to drop the act when called out. Then they act like they are about LGBT people. How can someone be this stupid and still have so much pride? Reblog this to everyone.
I’ve seen an anti-fujoshi tag his post with “kill all fujoshi” and it fills me with disgust. Death threats are never acceptable, that should be common sense. This might sound childish but I wish people, fucking adults like that guy should obey rules kids learn in kindergarten such as “dont be a dick”.
I’ve also seen posts saying fujoshi are “homophobic” because yaoi works and doujin tend to have “problematic” aspects such as power differences, torture and slavery, because according to them getting off to the pain of gay men is bad.
And I say fuck you. You know what? What someone enjoys in fiction has no bearing on their moral value. People have enjoyed disturbing content since forever. I myself find black comedy funny, and sometimes seeing fictional people they find attractive being hurt/beat up is sexy.
I myself have been trying to create two OCs, ones a sadistic and handsome bisexual male vampire and one is an innocent farm boy who is also a vampirehunter-in-training, the vampire flirts with and is very possessive of the farmboy despite him trying to kill the vampire, and there will be art of both of them in pain and bloody.
No asshole has a right to harass me because of the stories I create for my own enjoyment.
Fuck you if you think death threats is in any way an acceptable response to people reading fictional works you disapprove of.
Hi, actual Japanese fandom fan here. Stop bastardizing my language to
turn it into an insult when you really mean homophobe. Fujoshi is a
“woman who enjoys m/m shipping”. Any woman, not just straight women. The
male equivalent is fundashi, and the gender neutral term is fujin. The
whole anti fujo movement was started by TERFs anyway. Stop twisting MY
LANGUAGE to further the TERF movement, thanks!
from the post about a japanese person asking antis not to appropriate fujoshi (i took the comments and put them in order). there was more but this particular exchange leapt out at me. its basically a microcosm of anti-fujo discourse.
“i need a word specifically designed to insult women who express sexual interests i dont like. hey dont call me racist for deciding to appropriate a japanese word to do it!! also even though im the one who super totally needs this word for some reason, you’re the one who has to find a suitable replacement for the one im using kthx” 🙄
at best these shits are just too fucking lazy and stubborn to make up their own new term
I say this as someone who is clinically bad with change, these ppl are fucking ridiculous
USE FUCKING HOMOPHOBE.
SOMEONE THAT FETISHIZES ACTUAL GAY PEOPLE IS HOMOPHOBIC.
USE HOMOPHOBE INSTEAD. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NEED TO INVENT A NEW WORD WHEN THAT ALREADY EXIST. FUCK, USE FETISHIZER ALONE IF YOU WANT, AT LEAST THAT IS MORE ACCURATE THAN FUJOSHI.
USE FUCKING HOMOPHOBE FOR ONCE ON YOUR WORTHLESS LIVES, BUT STOP MISUSING TERMS YOU KNOW SHIT ABOUT.
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