Okay, people, it’s time to close my blog now, as I promised. Since I already wrote a farewell post, I’ll just clarify something. I’m still on tumblr, so if you really, really need to contact me, write me in DM, although I don’t want to talk about the Joker, because it hurts too much. But you think it’s really important, then okay.
If there would be some big and good news about the Joker, don’t worry I will know about that, because I still a geek and I’m still read the geek news. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I would come back if something changes in DC, but there is a possibility. After all, I have a tendency to get back to my old fandoms. But I don’t think it would happen anytime soon. Oh, and I closed the petition, by the way.
Also I will be active in my russian blog, deviantart page and probably AO3. If somebody of you will like to know if I found a new fandom and if I made another tumblr fan blog, you can check my russian blog’s sidebar, I will probably add a new link after I’ll find a new fandom.
Please, don’t be sad!
P.S. I don’t want this post to be the last one on my blog, so I’ll add a good batjokes picture instead!
Cara minha opinião sobre joker war, pra mim eu tenho muita certeza que o coringa não vai morrer nele (tomara que não), porque ele é um personagem clássico que está muito anos aqui, mais é o minha opinião, vamos esperar o a continuação chegar, por enquanto...
Don’t worry, the Joker is survived Joker War’s events. He lost his eye, though. The Joker already appeared in the comics after that (later, in the same issue, or somewhere else in Tynion’s run, I don’t remember) and he got solo series (on this cover he got only one eye). He’ll be fine.
You won't delete your blog, right?
No, no, don’t you worry, everything here will stay safe and sound. There won’t be new updates or asks, that’s all.
What types of villains and heroes do you dislike?
Do you mean superheroes and supervillains from comic books or any type of protagonist and antagonist? Nevermind. I love the colorful and bright villains, who has a smart mouth, who still had a little humanity left inside their black heart (because humanity is villain’s flaws - and every good character should have the flaws). As for heroes… well, I like them to be sarcastic, cold-minded, logical, maybe with a little darkness inside. And both of them - villains AND heroes - should have a troubled and angsty past (or some of them is a big BABY). But it’s just my own preference.
Ooops, I accidentely answered what I love in them… Okay. Hmm, what I disliked in heroes and villains? Maybe the vulgarity. Aside from the bad writing, of course. It’s not really you wanted to hear from me? Sorry… You probably wouldn’t have time to ask another question, because I will close my blog and my askbox tomorrow.
What do you think can happen to the joker and other villains in Joker war? I don't know if you read the comic, but how would you think it was?
No, I didn’t read Joker War storyline (aside from a few panels with the Joker in final issue), so I don’t really have idea what happened there, so I can’t even understand your question. But Tynion’s run and his Joker War is one of the reasons why I’m leaving…
What do you think about BTAS and Batman: the adventures continue and all the other animated shows/movies?
I think that BTAS is one of two most faithful and atmospheric adaptations of Batman comics (along with Batman: Arkham Game). It’s a little bit grim and dark for children cartoon and the women there is unnecessary sexualized (they are all looked like pin-up girls). But I still like it despite its flaws. But TNBA is much more simplistic and bleak than original animated series. I didn’t read Batman: The Adventures Continue because I hate Paul Dini and every project that include him and/or Bruce Timm (for various reasons which I don’t want to list here). I also enjoyed some of the DC full-lenth animated movies like Son of Batman or Bad Blood. As for any other Batman animated works… I like 2004’s The Batman a lot. Do you want me to continue with other things? Or it’s enough?
Joker is getting a solo
Yeah… I heard about that… They couldn’t choose worst time to give the Joker solo series. Because, as I already said, the Joker now is on the lowest point of his history. His characterization is so “off” that’s it’s not even him anymore. A few years back I would kill for the Joker solo series. But when I read the news yesterday about that, my vision almost went black, ha-ha. Because I’m so mad and so goddamn tired.
Who are your favorite writers for the Joker?
I’m probably already answered that question somewhere, but okay… It’s Dennis O’Neil, Grant Morrison, Chuck Dixon, Alan Grant (maybe), Jeph Loeb (except for Emperor Joker storyarc). But, to be honest, only O'Neil and Dixon are my all-time favorite writers for the Joker.
When I first read your goodbye post, I genuinely got really saddened!! I've barely gotten into the fandom this year, but still grew to love your blog and I will miss it. So I just want to say thank you for keeping this blog, and I hope you keep writing, and also wish for you to soon find a new fandom to bring you lots of joy!
As a little side note, I wanted to say I watched a stream someone did of your fangame on yt (I'll try it myself soon, I just didn't have any time until now :| ) and really liked each dialogue (you capture J's "voice" really well, take note DC writers!) and detail, also rpgmaker made games bring lots of nostalgia to me so that's a plus.
So, I guess that's all, I hope these last weeks of 2020 treat you nicely!
Aw, please, don’t be sad. You are on the path of beautiful discoveries about Joker & batjokes! And me… I already know everything about it and, I guess, there is nothing else new and good for me here. Usually I stay in the fandom for a two or three years and then switch on something else, but I’m stuck with the Joker since 2014, jeez. It’s not surprising that I was searching and hoping for a new obsession for a couple years now…
I’m so happy that people actually likes my little RPG thing! I’m really proud of that game and my version of the Joker. But I’m sorry that I promised the sequels and never finished them. I guess Arkham Escape would be my little legacy left to the batjokes fandom. So thank you for the kind words about Arkham Escape!
Yeah, I hope for the best and maybe I will step into 2021 with new fandom and new tumblr blog. :)
Is Joker left or right-handed?
Suddenly I can’t remember the times when he ever writes something… but I’m pretty sure that I would notice if the Joker was left-handed. The only one moment that I can remember is from Dark Days: The Forge. So I think that he’s right-handed.
I feel so bad about all of it
Are you feel bad about everything what’s going on with the Joker, about me closing petition or about me quitting? Anyway, you shouldn’t be worry, none of it is worth your worry.
joker-ka this is amazing! your petition is with 2,648 now! when I entered I was only with 2,644 only. I wrote myself a few years ago and I still had 1,300. have faith ka you can. :)
And now it’s 2650 signatures… :)
You see… I didn’t exactly lost all my hope for the justice for the Joker. I still believe that sooner or later someone in DC Comics change everything or, to be precisely, revert everything back to its roots - make the Joker gay again, etc, etc. But my petition wouldn’t be the reason why it’ll happens.
It’s been a three years already and it didn’t change not a one damn thing in DC. A few more signatures in old forgotten petition won’t change anything. Trust me, there was a time when new signatures was added every minute, every second. But nothing happened, even when there was hype and buzz. It was in late january 2018. I’ve read some of the articles on geek and LGBT sites or comments and discussions on social media… and most of the people thought that my petition is funny. You know, like it was written by some crazy slash fangirl. Oh boy, how much nasty comments I’ve read about the Joker, my petition and even about myself (misgendering was one of the nicest thing there). Some of them was added to my petition and I searched and deleted it.
And now it’s all quiet, because everyone forgot about this petition like people usually forgot yesterday’s jokes and memes. Sometimes there’s a one or two signatures in a week or month. Sometimes it’s ten a day. It won’t change anything, because that ship has sailed.
It’s doesn’t mean that I give up, that I don’t believe in Joker’s homosexuality or batjokes anymore. It means only one thing - my petition is not gonna help, but there’s a probably a new way to fight, a new way to be loud. But I won’t be the person who’ll do that. Someone else will be. Maybe it’s some of you. My petition will stay as a first tossed stone. Pick up more stones and fight on.
Why did the Joker disappeared from comics for four years (since 1969 to 1973)?
The Joker wasn’t particularly popular Batman’s villain back in 50s and 60s and he disappeared from the stories quite a lot. Here, for example, a fragment from 1959’ comic book (the Joker was absent since 1957’ issue).
In 60s the Joker didn’t appeared much often. But highly popular Batman ‘66 series where the Joker became one of the recognizable and iconic villain brought back the Joker’s faded popularity. He wasn’t only one Batman’s villain who we almost lost in 60s - the Riddler also almost disappear back then, but was saved by TV show.
I don’t know why exactly the Joker wasn’t used in the comics for a couple of years (his last appereance was in December 1969 and the next was in March 1972). Probably authors thought that the Joker’s concept was outdated and they wanted make a little redo, so it took a while. But in 1973 the Joker was brought back in all his new refreshed glory in the legendary The Joker’s Five-Way Revenge issue. And it was awesome!
Hi, it's me again, sorry for interrupting more I was exploring your blog, to get to know you better, and I saw that you had made a post about you saying goodbye (Parting is such sweet sorrow, dearest.) Is that true? man I feel so sad now ... I met you some day ... but I understand you, I also lost some hopes of DC about the joker, not only about your sexuality in question because it will not do anything at the moment ... I feel bad for you <:(
Yep, that’s true. But I hope I’m leaving behind some interesting thoughts and opinions as well as pretty big archive of Joker and batjokes pictures. I know I was sorta Joker’s information desk and I’ll let people down with my decision, but I’m pretty sure there will be someone else to take my place who knows and loves the Joker as much as I do. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine. A little bit lonely, but fine. :)
What petition?? I didn't know! Pls don't close it, I want to sign it!
Here’s the petition. I don’t close it yet, but I will do it sooner or later. It’s been a three years already since I post it, there’s no point to keep it active. It didn’t make any good (or maybe it’s even bring harm - I’m still dreadful to think my petition is one of the reason why the Joker now is heavily cemented as straight). But you can sign it, it’s doesn’t matter now anyway…
Are you also on twitter?
I have twitter account, but it’s private now and I don’t use it anyway.
The only place where I’m gonna be active is my russian blog, my art blog, DeviantArt and probably AО3. Probably I will make another fan tumblr page when I found my new fandom.
привет! (надеюсь, ничего страшного, если аск будет на русском) давно хотел сказать, что благодарен вам за ваш блог и, в частности, за ваши мысли о джокере, его предыстории и отношений с бэтменом ( столько интересного привнесли!!) и абсолютно понимаю то, что вы сказали в вашем "прощальном посте" и надеюсь, что скоро вы найдете что-то такое же глубокое и интересное, как и этот фандом :) спасибо!
Я очень рад, что мои старания не прошли даром и кому-то мои мысли и ответы были интересны и полезны. И да, я тоже надеюсь, что в скором времени я найду что-то, чем смогу очень сильно загореться, и с уютом обоснуюсь в новом фэндоме на ближайшие лет пять. :) Спасибо за добрые слова!
I’m so sorry… but I think I need to say goodbye. Again. But this time for good.
Here’s the words of Tegan Jovanka from classic Doctor Who which is perfectly explaining why I’m quitting:
I returned to my joker-ka blog in late august in time for Three Jokers publication as I planned, but DC Comics didn’t have anything to offer for me. Everything was a big disappointment with a little crumbs of joy. I can’t see anything worth of waiting. I can’t see any hope on the horizon. I don’t talk only about the Joker’s homosexuality and his feelings for Batman (and the cruel, cruel way DC straighwashing him and retcon him into straight guy). It’s about the Joker’s original personality that was lacking since New 52. This is why I fall in love with him in the beginning. But that Joker is not here and I don’t think he’ll be back. Not now and not after upcoming relaunch. I admit there will probably be something good, something batjok-y and wonderful… but it’s will be - again - almost accidental crumbs and everything else will be about this unrecognizible dark clown who don’t love his Batman. I’m tired of things like Three Jokers, Tynion run or Harley Quinn show (which I don’t watch anyway). Everything is wrong with the Joker and he is definitely broken. But I don’t have energy nor time to nurse him back to health in my fics. I don’t feel anything about him anymore. Just bitterness… Sorry about promised fics/art/games, by the way). But I just not strong enough to keep fighting. Or read any new DC comic books.
It hurts so, so, so much to leave batjokes fandom! Because I’m use to this blog, to my followers, to your asks, to your attention… I was actually able to rant about my special interest with large amount of people who is really interested in what I’m saying. It was… more than unusual feeling. I never gathered so much followers in my entire life and I probably never be able to do that again. So after I’ll quit, I will be alone again and it’s make me sad. I’m not leaving in another fandom - I still didn’t find any replacement - and it SUCK. Because usually I’m always obsessed with something, but I can’t find something new, something to bright up my mind and warm up my heart. I’ve been searching for new fandom/obsession/special interest for a few years now, but nothing (only my old interests can spark a joy in me for a month or so). So yeah, it’s suck to leave fandom and didn’t have anything to replace it.
I won’t delete this blog, but I will close my #makethejokergayagain petition. I still believe in its statement with all my heart, but I don’t see any point now to keep it open (a petition page will stay, but there’s will be no new signatures/I also removed my real name from it, just in case). I will close my ask in a week, so you can ask any last questions, if you want. I won’t leave tumblr, so I will still be available through DM or my russian blog. So… I will keep going, rewatching old stuff, trying to find something new and nice, writing my books, after all. And I will miss you all terribly. (And I will miss the Joker too…).
Have you ever watched Harley Quinn? well I actually liked the series a lot, it’s great, but did you know that the joker now has a relationship with bethany? he has two kids, well i didn't understand it very well because man ... my mind got confused, so he never loved batman? I always said if he was pam, bi, gay ?? do the DC authors seem to want to keep it really locked in the closet? say he "was born homosexual, and was always homosexual" or is that just a big lie ...?
Yep, I heard about that blasphemy. Another brick in straightwashing wall. I don’t think that authors now write the Joker as bi/ban or whatever, they’re just frantically trying to erase anything gay in the Joker that was build-up for a few decades. They’re treat the Joker’s undeniable love for Batman as a punchline and trying to hide any trace of the Joker’s homosexuality - mostly in favor of Harley Quinn.
Have ya seen Joker from Batman/Catwoman, wearing pink shirt?
I saw it a few days ago on twitter… Pink color is certainly suits the Joker and it’s good for a change. But since I already knew what this Batman/Catwoman issue about, I didn’t really care to think or talk about it. (But he’s pretty).
Do you think Joker remembers his past?
Personally, I don’t think he remembers anything. Maybe just an unreliable fragments. In The Killing Joke and Man Who Laughs he certainly didn’t sure in his past.
In other comic books, for example Gotham Knights, he remember everything in details. For me, it’s better - and scarier - that the Joker doesn’t remember his past, his childhood or adult life, don’t have any connections and affections to people in his past.
I read contradictory versions in different comics, in one of them (Salvation run?) It was mentioned that, since the accident at Ace, the Joker is in chronic pain, but he grow used to love it. In another comic (I don't remember the title), the Joker was said to have suffered from Full Body Nerve Damage and can't really feel pain or touch unless it's intense. So which version is more reliable?
I can’t compare these two versions, because I don’t know the origin of second quote, sorry. Usually, when I decide for myself if something more or less canonical, I look at the continuity, authors, was it from pre-flashpoint or New 52/Rebirth. Honestly, I prefer first variant with chronic pain (because of… well, personal reasons).
Do you like Fortnite's Joker design?
*googling it* Well, I don’t know much about Fortnite, so I don’t if it’s Joker skin or “Joker” skin for certain character. It’s look bright and fun enough, I love some of the features like stitches, shoes or ha-ha vest. But why he’s not smiling? It’s the Joker, for god’s sake. Where’s the big toothy smile? Also there’s a HQ pin (crrrringe). And it’s just lighting or it’s not white skin, but white paint? I mean, his ankles looks normal… which is NOT normal.
So I want to star reading Killer Smiler but I'm afraid I might find some jarley sh*t in it, so please tell me what to expect?
Don’t worry, there is no Harley Quinn in Killer Smile. Or any other female love interests for that matter. It’s about the Joker and his male doctor, Batman also appears there. No batjokes, although. I had a weird aftertaste that the Joker here is straight, but it’s just my impression, there is no explicit confirmation. Anyway, it’s psychological horror story, so it’s not about relationship of any kind.
Who is your favorite Batman actor? Or who'd you have chosen to play him?
I already answered that here. But in short, no, I don’t have a favorite Batman actor. From Lewis Wilson to Ben Affleck, no one from Batman actors didn’t click right with me. Maybe I will like Pattinson, I don’t know yet. As for my dream cast Batman (or Joker for that matter), I have difficulties to stick some actor’s face to fictional character, maybe it’s my face blindness talking, ha.
Have you read Batman/Catwoman #1?? Because /spoiler/ there's old Joker living with he's family and wife (Bethany, apparently his girlfriend from Harley Quinn TV show), leading a normal life, amd old Catwoman trying to kill him for killing Andrea Beaumont's kid
Thanks for keeping me informed. Nah, I didn’t read this shit, although I didn’t knew there’s gonna be the Joker. Things get worse and worse, huh? I guess the Joker now is on his lowest point of his history. I can’t even properly react to that, maybe it’s still shell-shock after Three Jokers.
(By the way, I’m once again drop reading DC comics for a while. I need some time to think about everything what’s going with my poor clown).
But for those of you who still read current DC comic books and care about what happening there, I want to say - Tom King’s Batman/Catwoman limited series is “possible future” and it’s not part of canon.
I'm looking for a comic book panel (it's from 70s or 80s) with the Joker walking a hyena on a leash. Can you help me? btw. It's sad that so many people think hyenas were originally Harley's pets. While the kept them as his pets in comics and tv shows since like 1970s
It’s from Joker solo series #8 (1976).
To be completely honest, the Joker in this issue didn’t had a pet hyena, it was only for cover. Later in this issue the Joker tried to get hyena painting from the zoo.
His real pet hyena named Giggles appeared in 1977 in New Adventures of Batman animated series, fifteenth years BEFORE any sight of Harley Quinn.
Why are so many fans stateing the Joker HAS a child with Harley, referring to Lucy Quinzel? I mean, they say it as if it was a matter of fact! Meanwhile, Lucy is not even a canonical character. Injustice is a separate universe set in the game world. It is not even one of the Earths in the DC Multiverse. (btw. Harley doesn't even have a sister in the canon books lol).
I think, jarley fans just desperately trying to get any crumbs as their “proofs”. We can also say that the Joker and Batman are canonically married (according to Knight of Vengeance when Batman and Joker are Thomas and Martha Wayne), but we don’t do that nonsense. Why should we? :)