The song “Soldier, Poet, King” fits the current three archons so well. I know that a lot of people see Zhongli as soldier and Raiden as king, but I honestly think the opposite. It’s obvious as to why Venti would be the poet:
“There will come a poet
Whose weapon is His word
He will slay you with His tongue […]”
I think those lyrics are the very embodiment of Venti and his songs, especially in the manga against the Lawrence clan and with Vennessa.
Now, to go on to why I think Raiden is soldier and not Zhongli:
“There will come a soldier
Who carries a mighty sword
He will tear your city down […]”
Well, we know that Ei made Sho to look and resemble her, just in a more ruthless manner whose sole goal was to seek Eternity- I’ll save the details for a proper character study later -and we know that “Shogun” directly translates to “Commander” in English, and that Ei was a “Kagemusha” or “Shadow Warrior” in the War.
We also know that Sho wields the Musso Isshin which Ei’s consciousness is placed into, this: “who carries a mighty sword”, is checked out. Not to mention that Ei is also a master at the Musou No Hitotachi which is “A sword art without parallel in all the world.” [Source: Feelings About Ascension: Conclusion]
Now, during the Archon War, Orobashi was slayed by Raiden (I’m putting Raiden since it’s still unclear if Sho or Ei did it due to her voiceline on Kokomi) and sliced the island in half, so, “will tear your city down”, also fits Raiden.
Now, often times when I see the song used in reference to the Archons, Zhongli is matched up as the soldier seeing as his past as an Adeptus, but, while I can see his placement here, I feel as though the lyrics that fit king, better line up with him, and that the lyrics of the soldier fall just short of Zhongli and his lore.
So, for Zhongli:
“There will come a ruler
Whose brow is laid in thorn
Smeared with oil like David's boy […]”
I think king fits Zhongli really well because of what we saw him sacrifice for the sake of Liyue. He died for the people of Liyue to prosper, and the lyrics, “whose brow is laid in thorn”, is reference to Christianity and Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross, and those lyrics remind of Zhongli and the sacrifice he made to Liyue by faking his death and allowing Osial to be awakened.
i had heard of this song before but this is the first time i’ve actually listened to it and i like it a lot!
your analysis is very interesting! i honestly don’t know enough about the song and its background to comment on this (i’m also dead tired unfortunately :( so brain no work) but i appreciate it a lot!!!
i like the juxtaposition and similarities that genshin has between morax and baal, it’s so interesting. technically speaking, they’re both afraid of the same thing — change and the impact it has on them in their roles as archon for each nation.
morax believed that liyue would always need him, but when he was confronted with the challenge that no they actually can function well enough without him (as is proven through the whole faking his death as a challenge); he graciously accepted that change is something that is inevitable and that it is what is best for liyue to continue grow. thus he feels little regret in stepping down as archon.
whereas baal, she is terrified of change but hides her fear behind her obsession with eternity. she seems to dwell in the past, among other things — as is evident in her character teaser — as she sees it as being the best way to escape the changes that have occurred in her time, such as the losses she’s had (you can also make this connection between her and morax here too). thus instead of letting inazuma grow and develop in the ways it naturally should, she’s aiming to close it off both physically and metaphorically. it seems as though she wants inazuma to remain almost stagnant as part of her vision of eternity and is therefore willing to do anything to prevent any challenges to this, such as the vision hunt decree and the treatment of those from outside inazuma.
so ultimately they are or were both scared of the same thing, however, their approaches and reactions to it are vastly different. and i just think that that’s really neat.
Did you talk to Ioroi again after the Sakura Cleansing Quest? He is so funny. If you piece together what happened between him and Baal it was like. Kitsune Saiguu daring him to steal some plant from Baal’s garden. Baal immediately catching him and preparing to stab him. Saiguu intervening on his behalf, so the Shogun gave him a job to protect his forest and spared his life instead. Ioroi grumpily admits he owes Saiguu his life. The catalyst desc reveals Saiguu planned all along to trick both him and the Shogun. The Narukami weapon mats reveal Baal remembers Ioroi, more specifically as “the bake-danuki who dared trespass her imperial garden” like, she never actually forgot the guy existed and did that, and her opinion of him hasn’t even budged. “Oh yeah that little thieving—” THIS IS A CLOWN SHOW. I’m thriving
WHY ARE ALL THE ARCHONS SO PETTY…. Zhongli STILL doesn’t forgive Venti for forging his signature to end the Lawrence Era these gods are just dumbasses with power
I made a comic about how Tomo’s cat ended up in Baal’s courtyard.
#genshin baal#baal#genshin impact#raiden shogun #genshin impact spoilers #i have this hc that Baal leaves the palace at an ungodly hour at night to go and feed the cat #she’ll sit on the grass and play with it a little #if anyone somehow catches her #she just gives them a look #and they know never to mention it again
for people that watched the inazuma trailer in english, does anyone else find baal’s voice so unnervingly calm in that scene? like, she just watched traveler steal a vision right in front of her, something that she has an entire hunt decree after, and yet speaks so calmly that it sends a shiver down my spine. for someone said to be so tyrannical i found it strange, but in a good way. i actually loved how it was done, it was simply something that i noticed and wanted to see if anyone else did.
with that being said, does anyone know baal’s english va?
i’m going to start writing for genshin impact since i’ve really been getting into it. i have some ideas already, but i’m only ar 32, so if you request something please don’t spoil the story for me. i’ll be adding the characters to my fandoms list.
so, originally i wanted to do a “ship study” on nanago since it’s been my current brainrot at the moment, but as i was thinking of their dynamic, i came to some realizations that i want to express and share. so, for now, this is going to be a character study on specifically nanami’s backstory. eventually i’ll write a complete character study on nanami as well as a ship study on nanago, but for now, have this!
it’s been confirmed by akutami that after haibara passed away, nanami was left alone. he had no other classmates, and no friends. he’s yet to become close to gojo and co. although nanami wasn’t portrayed too much in gojo’s past arc, there’s still a lot to analyze for him, but today i want to focus on his inability to properly process loss and how to grieve and how it connects to his death.
with the confirmation that akutami gave us, it’s clear that nanami had nobody that supported him through his grief. the closest he got was geto telling him to rest, but soon after that geto turned his back on the sorcery world (i think it’s also important to note that akutami said that nanami doesn’t blame him for this). even that little bit of support seemed to have fallen onto deaf ears since nanami was, as we’ve seen, in one of his most emotional states within the manga/anime.
with no support and no one to really talk to, it’s clear that emotional connection may have come hard to nanami. we can see in the anime when he’s talking with the bakery woman that he isn’t quite connected or aware of the emotions being expressed, or that he should express. he came off rather strong right off the bat, and he wasn’t able, or it seems, to understand the confusion she was going through as he continued.
it’s not until after he returns to sorcery and, as we have seen, is more connected with gojo, shoko, ijichi, and co. that we see him express and understand emotion. even then, he tells itadori that he doesn’t know what it means to give someone a “natural death” because “everyone dies a different death”. we see nanami express emotions through physical actions and expression during the nanami vs mahito fight, but still he tries to hide it, showing that he’s become used to repressing it (or rather, not used to having to force himself to repress it).
it’s clear that nanami values children’s lives and that they remain kids for however long they can until they hit adulthood. and it makes sense. he doesn’t want anyone to go through the trauma that he and his senior (gojo) went through because of the faults of adults.
nanami never truly recovered from yu haibara’s death, and it’s made clear during chapter 120. nanami, as put together as the man is, was still a traumatized boy. people don’t acknowledge that the two times nanami has smiled was during a potential death scene and his inevitable death scene. nanami was so ready to accept his death during the itadoir & nanami vs mahito fight that it makes me cry seeing how shocked he was to see yuuji save him.
it’s no wonder why nanami doesn’t blame geto, it’s because he knows he could have ended up like that too, but rather, he chose to “run away”. while he was away from sorcery he only wanted an early retirement (i think could be symbolism for an early death, but that might be a LONG stretch).
nanami returned to sorcery in order to protect others, specifically children and their youth, and once he was unable to do that for itadori- another just like yu -nanami’s goal has failed. nanami’s role ended the minute yuuji questioned why he was still alive.
i might add onto this later since i feel like i have more to say, but it’s 11:36 right now and i have classes tomorrow. feel free to add on!
nanami said he died without regrets but you think he regrets not taking yuuji out of the jujutsu world?
[chapter 120+ spoilers]
I wholeheartedly believe that Nanami saw/sees Itadori as a son to him. He’s so aware and connected with Yuji’s emotions that it’s hard to ignore the deeper, familial relationship they have. So, regarding your tags, I don’t think you’ve let a fic cloud what’s really there because it’s so clear that they’re relationship runs deeper than just mentor and mentee. So many people see them having that familial father-son relationship, and I’m not exempt from that.
However, regarding the actual post, I don’t think Nanami is naïve enough to think that he can take Itadori out of the sorcery world, even if they both wanted that to be the outcome. Itadori would have been hunted down and still have had the execution risk hanging over his head, but now even more so. So, I think Nanami decided to do what he could for Yuji. He showed him what it was really like to be a sorcerer, and it wasn’t until Yuji went through that pain that sorcerers do that Nanami acknowledged Yuji as one, because he couldn’t allow Yuji to have this non-realistic view of sorcery when, as Nanami said, “you put yourself on the line for others, and sometimes are forced to risk your comrades lives as well” (paraphrasing).
While, yes, I do think Nanami had regrets when it came time for his death regarding Yuji, I don’t think they were in regard to Yuji remaining a sorcerer, but rather his last words. He never wanted to be a curse for Yuji, but in the end- in my interpretation -his words were the best curse Yuji could have received, because sense then it has made Yuji continue to fight and live on two or three times (can’t remember exactly).
**bnha spoilers** I'm just sat here with renewed realisation of what All Might is going through. 40 years. /40 years/ he held and refined that power and dedicated his every waking (and sleeping if Vigilantes is anything to go by) moment towards the goal of defeating AfO and creating a society in which people could feel happy and safe. And now as it turns out AfO is still alive, society is broken and he has given a literal piece of his soul to this young boy leaving himself with only phantoms
Yes.I don’t think people quite grasp what all he’s going through.
It’s been shown recently to us that some, if not most, heroes have underlying ambitions in becoming a hero. Whether for money, glory, fame, popularity, doesn’t matter. They’re ultimately in it for themselves. Toshinori’s intentions from the beginning have been the most pure- he wanted to be a symbol that people can look to and know things will be ok. A symbol of hope. This boy was only around 14 years old when he decided this. What kind of 14 year old sees the world that clearly? Sees that people have no hope, that a veil of darkness covers them. The only thing I can think of is- Toshinori did not have a good childhood. Something had to have happened to a boy that young to stop seeing the joy in life so early, and see the world’s flaws. Truthfully, I believe he was an outcast- due to his quirklessness. Most likely an orphan, perhaps abandoned by his parents, as we’ve never seen him have any family. I do truly believe Toshinori has been alone all his life. I don’t doubt more could have happened to him as a child before he met Nana.
Some may argue that Izuku is the same age, and therefore it shouldn’t be that hard to see why Toshinori wanted to be a hero at such a young age. BUT, Izuku had someone to look up to, ever since he was a child of four years old, to inspire him to be a hero his whole life *cough cough* All Might. Izuku also was quirkless, much like Toshinori, and an outcast because of it (hence where I assume Toshinori was much the same). But ultimately, Izuku wanted to save people because he saw his hero do it. It really wasn’t until Izuku was a bit older, has been in UA, has been on rescue missions, has seen what the heroes see, that I think he’s truly realized how dark the world really is. Toshinori didn’t have that. He didn’t have someone to inspire him as a child, someone to look up to, a hero to inspire him to help others. At that time, heroes hadn’t become as popular as they are in present times. Toshinori saw the world for what it was, on his own, at a tender age. I think that day Nana ran into this blonde hair kid, she eyed him up, noticed his scraggly form, looked into those captivating blue eyes, and saw a man who’s lived through the world’s horrors- experienced the worst it has to offer-, and wants to save everyone he can from the same fate, all in a 14 year old boy.
Then after only a few short years with the woman he saw as his mother, she’s killed in front of him because of his own weakness- he wasn’t strong enough yet to protect her. The only other person his life, Gran Torino, literally abused him. He beat him to a pulp, taking his own emotions out on a teenager, and I doubt Toshinori said anything of it. He probably thought he deserved it. He’s still afraid of Gran Torino to this day, remembering the beatings and expecting more for his failures- even if he doesn’t know what they aresurely he’s at fault for something, but he’s the only person who’s stood by his side for this long. Even while at a distance, and spouting nothing but criticisms along the way. But Toshinori had to put aside his own emotions to be that hope for everyone. He left everything he knew to go to a new country on his own, to learn how to be a hero, to be that hope for someone.
Vigilantes showed us just how hard he worked. Toshinori literally stayed awake with no sleep for days on end- 3 in the chapter I’m referencing- because people needed help, people needed saving, and no one else stepped up. He fought villains, rescued civilians, repaired damage, cleared rubble, (even accept and eat food that was against his dietary restrictions after his injury) whatever the public needed, all while draining himself further. He worked himself to the point of exhaustion because he had no help, once literally falling asleep while mid-leap across the city because he simply could go no further.
^^These happen in succession of each other^^
No one stepped up to say “Hey, Mr. Number 1, you’ve been working hard lately. Let me help you!” No one tried to take over his position. Even the Number 2 hero, Endeavor, never tried to take some of his burden. His only goal was to try to be better than All Might in terms of power- he was never trying to be the hero that the people relied on All Might for. Everyone relied on him when things looked grim. He was the back up plan. And all of this happened before Toshinori’s injury.
The only thing he ever wanted to do- help people- he can’t do (at least the way he’s always known how to). The ability to save people has been taken from him in the most gruesome way. He was finally able to fight the man that killed Nana, and in a rage that I’m sure echoed with all of the emotions of the previous users, he smashed that man’s head like a grape. But not without consequence. Several organs are gone. The pain is excruciating. He wears that man’s mark on his body for the rest of his life, never truly able to rid himself of the filth.
Then we have Nighteye’s betrayal. The man that helped him as a sidekick, the man that grew to be his only friend. Now some people may ask why Toshinori flipped like he did to Nighteye looking into his future when he was concerned about him making it through his injury. What I believe is Toshinori didn’t want to know when he would die (and really, who does). Now he knows he’s on a time limit, knows the clock is ticking. Time is running out to keep the world at peace, and with him as he is now, how long can this go on?
I think the betrayal, doing something that Toshinori specifically asked him not to do, is what hurt the most. How can he trust Nighteye anymore? He already can only count on one hand the people he can trust, let alone befriend.
He’s wasted away into a skeleton, a shell of the man he used to be. He can’t over exert himself without his only lung bleeding in protest. It’s canon in the side books that he really doesn’t eat much, which isn’t good for his diet without a stomach now (he’s supposed to have several small meals a day). He is quite literally punishing himself by starving. (Granted, he doesn’t feel hunger anymore.) He’s a sick man, beyond medical help at this point. They can only stabilize him and hope for the best. For five years now he’s in constant pain, every day. He loses blood like sweat. Surely his veins are bruised and collapsed with how many times he would have needed to be hospitalized. Whether from losing too much blood, being too dehydrated or starved from “forgetting” to eat, or an organ failing as body continues to fall apart. “…even as my body rots and grows frail…” - Toshinori People are bound to stare at him as he walks down the street. A tall, willowy, skeleton with a grimace on his face and blood stains on his clothes as he coughs up more into his own hands. There would be the ones who outright ignore him when they walk by, the people who offer pitying smiles and sympathetic glances or just outright stare, and then ones who are afraid of his appearance- children screaming at the mere sight of him and running to their parents to hide from the monster. Each one is another knife in Toshinori’s side, an ache in his chest. If only they knew who I really am.
Losing Nighteye took a toll on his hero work as well. Mirai was a huge help in the past, and took care of all Toshinori’s paperwork, while also reminding him to take care of himself. Without him, Toshinori was even more buried beneath his responsibilities. Plus, now he was on a time limit. He even snapped briefly in his first meeting with Tsukauchi, accidentally revealing himself as All Might because he was under too much pressure, and telling the detective he literally couldn’t handle doing everything by himself (who graciously took over the paperwork side of things for him).
He was living a double life now, having to lie to people left and right about who he was while in his small form, about how he became so sickly, why he was here in the first place who the heck is this skinny old guy. Surely he had multiple visits to the doctor while continuing to repair the damage done by AFO (there’s a limit to how much the body can handle at once. And things I’m sure continued to fail as time went on). Then he would be bedridden for as long as the doctors could keep him strapped to a bed, until he couldn’t take the people’s cries for help any longer, and would jump into action. (It’s also revealed he has something of a super hearing- able to hear danger- which may have been a form of danger sense of OFA that was never fully unlocked?. Either way, he surly could sense disasters happening while he could only lay and heal from his latest surgery. Those poor doctors must have had to re-stitch him several times). People blame him for not preparing society for his retirement, that he failed in passing on the torch so to speak, but in reality he did everything possible to keep society from falling for 40 years, doing all within his power just to keep things afloat. He is only one person. One human being, he can’t do everything despite trying to. Society failed All Might.
People blame him for not being a good teacher. He didn’t exactly have the greatest teacher himself to learn from. He’s never had to teach anyone anything, he just punches! He’s learning. And for his own credit, he’s an incredibly wise man, he has years of experience under his belt, and an intelligence score of 6/6, scoring up there with Nezu! He may not always have the right way to bring something up, but he’s doing his best. Yet even he blames himself for Izuku not being able to control his quirk better. Every time the boy hurts himself, it’s just another tally on the chalkboard of Toshinori’s failures. He himself knows the boy deserves better, better than him. Useless. Pathetic.
Then his friend from America, Dave, essentially became a villain trying to preserve Toshinori’s legacy after Toshinori told him about his injury. Dave went behind his back, threatened people, injured people (pretty sure people died), all for Toshinori’s sake. Something he didn’t want to begin with. Having to put your only other friend in jail for trying to help you surely couldn’t have been easy.
Oh, by the way? All For One isn’t dead. All Might will fight him again, publicly, have his weakened form exposed to the world, and have his own emotions toyed with as he finds out about his master’s grandson in the villain’s hands. Would Nana hate him for leaving her son alone like she’d asked, and dooming her grandchild to be raised by the greatest villain? Could he have done anything to save him? But Toshinori isn’t allowed to feel, he has to smile and push his own feelings aside once again, because there’s a villain to be fought, and only he can fight him. Despite coming out on top, he’ll have suffered severe head trauma, broken left arm, destroyed right arm, and several cuts and bruises that are sure to scar. And then, his quirk, the only thing that’s been allowing him to help people, the gift given to him that he carefully held for 40 years and molded into his own until his very consciousness was permanently carved into it, blows out like a match in the wind. And he’s done. Used up. Empty. Broken. Hollow. Alone, again.
He overhears his student, Bakugo, admit that he blames himself for All Might’s retirement. If he hadn’t been captured, All Might wouldn’t have had to save him, and he wouldn’t have had to fight AFO. Of course Toshinori knows that’s not true, his time was about to run out anyway. It would have happened one way or another. But how can he explain to this child that he wasn’t the cause of his hero, the world’s greatest hero, fighting for his sake, bleeding for his sake, being forced into retirement to keep him safe. Every time Bakugo sees the bandages covering Toshinori’s body is another reminder of the pain and sacrifice Toshinori willingly gave to keep him safe. Toshinori wasn’t held when his mentor died. He wasn’t told it was ok to be sad, that grief and mourning was a natural process, that it takes time to heal. He wasn’t told it was ok to cry. Instead his feelings were beaten out of him as he wondered if Gran Torino blamed him for Nana’s death. He already blamed himselfHow then, does he comfort a child mourning for him?For what he lost.
And then he gets the call to come to the hospital. Mirai, Nighteye, his old sidekick friend, has been gravely injured, much like he himself was only a few years ago, and most likely won’t survive the night. And to his horror, Nighteye is happy to see him, smiles at him, says he doesn’t hate him for what happened, only wants Toshinori to be happy. He can’t accept that, at least let him apologize, reconcile his sins before it’s too late! But it is. Another fractured piece of his heart gone.
Of course, seeing your students beat up and their arms completely destroyed must have hurt. Instead of being able to save these kids, they’re the ones that hurt themselves to save everyone else. And if Bakugo had kept OFA, things could have been very different (especially with what we know now of OFA and people with quirks). Toshinori wasn’t mad at Izuku for transferring it away, he’d never regret choosing Izuku, and I believe he still would have stayed by Izuku and Bakugo’s side should it have stayed in Bakugo, doing whatever he could to help.
As he tells Aizawa, “I’ve decided to live,” -that statement seems so melancholy, besides obvious reasons. It sounds more like another task he has to accomplish. He didn’t die he was supposed to die with the AFO fight, and now the whole life he lived is over. The world has no use for him anymore. If not for Izuku, he’d have nothing left keeping him here. But because his boy made him promise to live, he’ll do so. Though it almost seems like he says those words with regret. “I’ve decided to live.” Not, “I’m going to live!” “Nothing can kill me!” “I won’t go down without a fight!” No. “I’ll live if I have to, only because you asked me to.” The man is obviously and outwardly depressed. He has so many things against him. No doubt has severe PTSD, anxiety, among others. Not to mention his own physical health. Every day hurts. It’s painful to be alive. Why would he torture himself if he doesn’t have to? For you, my boy. You’re the only thing keeping me here. The only light in my dark world.
He tries to help Izuku find out the previous holder’s quirks, to help his boy in any way he can now that he’s worthless, and goes days on end without sleep, running his body into the ground. He even forgets Christmas. Only to find that by giving the boy the same gift he had received, he may have just doomed him to an early death, among psychological torture (danger detection). (Granted, he really doesn’t know how everything works, and he’s afraid to talk to anyone about it). His boy could live only half a life.
It’s only been a few months since he retired, and society has fallen into shambles. People are blaming him. People are dying. He watches helplessly as his colleague fight his fight for him, and end up battered, bruised, crippled, dead. He students, his boy, battle the monster he should have killed. Children are bleeding. This shouldn’t happen. This wasn’t supposed to happen. Is everything he worked for, everything he fought to protect, to build up, to inspire, is all for naught?! Did he live a foolish dream and doom the world? Was all the the friends he lost, tears he shed, the organs he destroyed, the pain he endures on a daily basis from the hole in his side, and the blood he continues to bleed every day, for nothing? The public, the ones he protected for so long, mourn his absence, but surely there are those among them who also blame him. The statue from his last fight in Kamino one that he never asked for was decimated in a mock of his catch phrase- the one that was supposed to give hope.
Now he can feel his own vestige speaking with Izuku in the OFA realm, even with out OFA in his own body anymore. His clock as nearly reached it’s limit, Nighteye’s prediction is due any day now. The only thing he wants is to see his boy smile at him, to give him some shred of hope. Yet the child remains unconscious, and Toshinori can’t even hold his hand from the bandages covering his arms. Will he still be able to fight? Is there any coming back from this now? Did I break him?
With all Toshinori has been through, I’m honestly surprised we haven’t seen him just outright break down. Anyone, anyone, else should have crumbled under the pressure of holding up the world for 40 years alone. And instead of being able to pass it on to someone when he can no longer bear its weight, it simply falls to into the abyss. People don’t credit All Might enough for everything he’s done. Most don’t realize the sacrifices he’s made. His character is so unbelievably profound and deep, it’s more than just the “I am here!” people focus on. He’s a deeply troubled, layered, complex character. And I can’t find fault within him.