The media reflects the reality of our lives even as it creates and promotes more violence against us.
They do that with every group. It’s a story about how someone overcomes something. You cant get mad at them for using trauma.
Taken doesnt glorify or encourage kidnapping.
Shrek doesnt glorify or encourage being ostracized and lonely.
Joker doesnt glorify or encourage the mistreatment of people with mental illness.
Cruella (lol) doesnt glorify or encourage shoving a woman off of a cliff via dogs.
It’s something terrible that happened to them that may fuel their actions.
But something tells me OP doesnt apply this logic to other groups. It os only an issue for them when it can apply to women.
Did I miss the scenes in those movies where Liam Neeson, Shrek and Joker are all raped?
You missed the part where their trauma was used as a plot device.
I can make the same argument that actual people have been kidnapped and/or sold into sex slavery and so apparently using that as his motivation is bad. But that would be an equally bad argument.
It’s incredibly common in movies and is used on men as well as basically every group. And you likely only care when it happens to women. Which means you dont actually have a problem with this.
The casual use of rape as a means of traumatizing a character is something that primarily seems to affect female characters.
Even when rape is used as a traumatic event in the backstory of a male character, it’s usually not that character that suffers, it’ll be his wife, sister, daughter, etc.
In fact, the literal first example you cited, Taken, was perhaps the worst example you could have used, because Liam Neeson’s entire motivation in that movie is that he has to rescue his daughter from those Eastern European slave traffickers before she gets raped.
Again, use that same logic for any other trauma.
“The casual use of kidnapping-”
“The casual use of enslavement-”
“The casual use of murder-”
Literally a recently released movie about a woman whose family was murdered and she’s out for revenge.
Trauma is commonly used as a motivation for the story to progress. It’s commonly used as a drive to get the character to do something they wouldnt normally do.
You have yet to disprove my argument that this applies to all groups and that you only having a problem with it when it happens to women means that you dont care about the groups this happens to (all of them), you just care about women. Similar to people who only care about rape or domestic violence if the victim is a woman.
Plenty of men get raped and there’s no shame in a man being a rape victim. It doesn’t make them any less manly or straight or heroic. Some of the men I admire most in this world are survivors of rape and sexual abuse.
So why is it, then, that rape is not more commonly seen in media as a trauma that affects men?
Why do you suppose that male characters will experience all these other awful things you listed - kidnapping, enslavement, murder - but rarely, if ever, rape? Why is rape so, so much more commonly seen as a trauma that affects female characters?
Are you asking why male rape victims arent more prevalent?
More than half of the world’s population (including many US states) dont even recognize male rape victims, especially not female on male rape. The point of trauma is for emotional impact. Empathy. support. That’s hard to do when much, if not most of your audience doesnt recognize it as wrongdoing. As a crime.
Now, i want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didnt know this. Well now you do. Male rape victims arent represented (in movies, in activism, in government aid) because society is still struggling to recognize men as victims.
At best, you will hear a lot of prison rape jokes (“dontdrop the soap” was literally in a spongebob episode). Because rape of me isnt take seriously, Unlike with female victims.
But they can be recognised as victims of all these other terrible things?
Nah, mate. I don’t buy it.
I mean, if men aren’t being recognised as victims, media is an enormously powerful tool in changing people’s attitudes and perspectives in that regard. That’s one of the reasons why representation in media is so incredibly important. Changing society’s view of the roles of people in it. That’s something a talented writer could really do something with, something that would immensely benefit and, dare I say, empower male rape victims.
But we don’t see that, do we?
Because male audiences don’t want to relate to male rape victims, because that sort of violation isn’t seen as cool or edgy when it happens to a man. It’s seen as a sign of weakness. And, if he was raped by a man, a bit… Ugh… Gay. A bit emasculating, even, because y'know, being raped? That’s something that only happens to women, right?
That’s why male action heroes go through all the other sorts of pain and trauma you listed, but not rape.
It’s lazy, misogynistic writing and I think, if you’re brutally honest with yourself, you know it.
? You dont have to “buy it”.
Rape is literally gendered by definition for most of the world’s population. Malaysia, India, the UK, northern Ireland, Scotland, most of Africa, tons of China, Indonesia, various US states, etc.
Male rape victims in these places are not legally recognized as rape victims, are not added to rape statistics, do not receive government aid as women do (and typically no activist group will touch them), and as a result, much of society doesnt recognize them as victims.
Remember #bringbackourgirls? A popular hashtag focusing on girls kidnapped by Boko Haram? Well before they even touched a girl, they were murdering and kidnapping over 10000 boys. The media, politicians, and activists only cared about the girls despite them being roughly 3% of the victims. The world only caring about the girls resulted in male victims of the same to be overlooked.
The media cares about viewers. If it hasnt been obvious to you, mainstream and social media cares about your views.m not the truth. If little black sally fell down a well compared to little white kevin, you can bet they will focus in little sally. Because people care more about that group so it gets more views. Talking about male victims of rape isnt going to get nearly the same views or sympathy. So they tend not to show it (though minors are a different story). Even then, you tend to see the word rape omitted. It’s “had sex with”, “had forced relations”, “forced herself on him”. But rape rarely makes it into the headline despite being consice.
Writers care about viewership. A female victim is way more popular than a male victim. It is unsurprising that this is who they would go with. It’s the same reason politicians avoid male victims of inequality. Gendered rape definitions for example are a very clear inequality. But what politician will risk accusations of misogyny for caring about men? India tried to make rape gender neutral and women’s rights groups.m feminists, and female politicians got it switched back. Politicians in favor of helping men were called women haters which isnt a good accusation for a politican.
Stop trying to twist this. Not too long ago.m you were honestly asking why male rape victims werent normally in media. Dont pretend you know the solution and that it’s men. Have you seen how small dedicated groups like MRAs (even female ones) are treated for addressing men’s issues? They get protested. They get bomb threats. Cassie Jaye’s film on what men go through was banned in Australian theaters and attacked by news anchors who admittedly didnt even watch it. Caring about men is unpopular. Gender equality that doesnt focus on women is unpopular. Feminism, a popular ideology, is at the forefront, insisting that men do not face inequalities and that misandry isnt real.
It typically just gets people like you who try to twist it as misogyny or men’s fault instead of really looking at the issue.
So anyway, to get back on topic, using trauma to drive a character is normal and is done to men too.
If a female rape victim is more popular with audiences than a male one, why are we having this discussion on a post decrying the constant depiction of female rape victims in the first place? On a post that has been reblogged by people that agree with it thousands upon thousands of times? To say nothing of the engagement of Jessica Chastain’s original tweet?
Why is the criticism of the sort of lazy, misogynistic writing that uses the rape of female characters for cheap drama such a widely discussed, commonly accepted talking point in most, if not all feminist media critique?
That would suggest to me, that a female victim is not, actually, more popular with audiences and that, in actual fact, you’re full of shit, mate.
And pardon me for wandering from the point here, but Boko Haram? #BringBackOurGirls? Cassie Jay?
Do you have any other men’s rights talking points from over half a decade ago that you’d like to throw out, apropos of nothing, and see if they stick?