jehovahs witnesses are literally a cult made with white supremacy and telling people to “be nice to them” is literally how they will target, isolate, and convert you
i disagree, but also if it’s a cult then you should be nice to the members that come to your door?
they might have been told that the world outside the cult is horrible and evil and that no matter how bad it is in the cult, it’s worse out of it.
being horrible to them might make it harder for them to leave and find help (also i hugely hesitate to call it a cult, im just saying it because OP did)
im not saying you should invite them in or join or ignore their history but also you probably shouldn’t be horrible to them and slam the door in their face (i say this specifically about younger members tbh)
they are a white supremacist cult. you cannot disagree with that because its not an opinion. they were founded on white supremacist ideals and for the reasons YOU listed, they are isolated and brainwashed into having dependency on their religion. thats what a cult is. there is no “might” here, that IS the watered down version of what jehovahs witnesses teach to their members
listening to some tiktok made by a white person about being nice to a group of people who are trained to take advantage of those types of situations is exactly how you can get yourself targeted. especially a site full of young and impressionable minors. ESPECIALLY a site full of people struggling financially, or mentally / physically disabled people, or lgbt people, etc etc. basically all the types of that are prone to be targeted
no one said anything about being mean to them. my post doesnt tell you to spit in their faces. so why make the assumption ..? actually if i known the post was going to get reblogged, i would prefer it had more information , but here we are.
there are professionals who have dedicated their lives to helping those with cult mindsets and know how to avoid coercement / estrangement, especially from the members they are trying to help. which they will do. because they are brainwashed cult members, as ridiculous as it sounds , they are people who have been manipulated into complete reliance on their cause. so … do you really think giving them a water bottle and letting them drill you with their mantra is going to make them suddenly want to go through the trauma of being disfellowshipped and apostatized ?
if jehovahs witnesses come knocking on your door you should tell them, and if you feel so inclined then tell them politely, that you are not interested and that they are not allowed to come on to your property again. and you, lazarats, can do anything you want to do, but please dont tell other people on my post to interact with white supremacist cults, especially if you know you dont have the full information😭😭
I’m an ex-Jehovah’s Witness and I was asked to comment on this post by an anon.
- Jehovah’s Witnesses are absolutely a white supremacist cult. There’s no denying that. Whatever you’ve heard, the reality is probably worse
- That tiktok was posted onto tumblr by an ex-Jehovah’s Witness who escaped the cult. There are lots of ex-jw/ex-cult bloggers on here who frequently post guides on how to handle interactions with cult members, based on lived experience.
- You are right about who is prone to be targeted, which is something I want to talk about because lots of people assume that only “stupid, naive” people join cults and so it could never happen to them. The reality is that they seek out and prey on anyone going through hardship, anyone isolated, anyone who feels alienated by the entire world. That’s why they leave pamphlets in hospitals, why they talk to people in graveyards, why they pull names from obituaries to write letters. Jehovah’s Witnesses are the most racially diverse religious group in the US and they have significantly more women than men as members and that’s not because those people are more gullible, it’s because being treated poorly and feeling disillusioned with the whole world makes you high-risk
- There is a reason that every single ex-JW guide on how to deal with Witnesses tells you to be kind. It’s because practically no one is. Most long-term Witnesses have had a naked person flash them at the door at least once. In rural areas at least, gun threats are extremely common. Everyone has had rude people and doors slammed in their faces, there are people who’ve been assaulted and chased. Any group of Jehovah’s Witnesses or ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses will have tons of people in it who are terrified of big dogs. Most JWs have had the police called on them
You have to consider this in context. Like you said, cults isolate their members. JWs aren’t allowed to be friends with non-JWs. College is heavily discouraged and most kids are homeschooled. Even work outside of free labor for the cult is something to be wary of. Jehovah’s Witnesses tell their members that there is no love at all in “the world” (outside of the cult), that only JWs have love among themselves, and that they are the happiest people on Earth. Preaching is obnoxious, people hate it, and sending members out to face that hate reinforces what the cult has taught them. It actually fulfills a few of their doomsday prophecies. Jesus foretold that his people would be despised and hated, so seeing that means it really is the one true religion. The idea of “scaring” Witnesses away is super common. Most people seem to think it’s funny, and thats what was initially being addressed
Meeting someone who is polite when you preach to them is rare. Not nice, not friendly, but just civil about it. JWs are trained from birth that the whole world is exactly like what they experience while preaching— which ideally would be literally their only contact with the outside world. The cult may be terrible and miserable and controlling, yeah, but its members are convinced that the outside world is even worse and that at least the people here love you. They genuinely believe that all “worldly” people are irredeemably bad and evil, and most of them have never had ANY evidence to suggest otherwise
One thing that tiktok didn’t mention though is to never talk to them twice if you can help it, and to ask to be put on the DNC list. I’m not saying it was perfect, but being nice is one of the biggest essentials when dealing with cult members for a reason