Shinji redraw from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
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eldritch kaworu is in baby jail :(
Delico (Gangsta) being readily and easily comparable to Shinji (Evangelion)
Kaji offering to buy Shinji a can or coffee or tea from the vending machine and Shinji freaking out that Kaji is trying to hit on him. Similarly, Delico freaking out as to why Worick is being nice enough to offer him canned coffee, as though the man asked Delico suck his dicc or something.
"Don't run away," Misato tells Shinji, paralleling Worick telling Delico the same thing, once Delico is at his lowest point right after shooting Yang.
F.A.P. scene in Evangelion with Shinji and comatose Asuka. Me realizing Delico is in charge of Yang, who's presently in the coma.
the funniest thing about finally watching evangelion is finding out that kaworu is only in one episode. one! out of 26! i used to see his pretty boy mug all over the place on nerd websites and he’s barely in the thing
i guess you can say that he...........made an impact
*thinks abt the two ocs I currently have residing in my head, both of which are nameless* oh these guys are fucked up.
Finally getting to watch Evangelion: 3.0+1.0! That’s where my user comes from ;)
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Basically Mari in Thrice Upon a Time
I watched Evangelion 3.0+1.0 yesterday and I have a tough time deciding whether I liked the movie or not. The movie had some things that I enjoyed and some things I didn’t enjoy, which leaves me somewhere in the middle.
I feel like it’s not as good as 2.22 or 3.33, leaving out 1.11 since it’s basically just a remake of the episodes from the shows. Apologies if I’m missing something, I’m writing this having not read anything more detailed than multiple people giving the impression that they were satisfied by the movie. That of course leads me to the question of what would have satisfied me and what was I really looking for this movie to give me after 16 years of watching this show?
Beginning with the opening preview that recounts the events of the previous 3 movies, I was caught off guard by how much of a joy it was to hear Amanda Winn Lee as Rei again. Brina Palencia did a fine job as Rei in the Funimation dub, but there’s this element of nostalgia along with the original ADV cast becoming more and more integrated with my experience of Evangelion with repeated viewings and further exploration of the ADV catalog of shows.
After the preview, the first big chunk of the movie focuses on Rei and Shinji, and to a lesser extent Asuka experiencing what life is like. I think this was my favorite part of the movie because of just how different it felt than anything that had come before. Rei (or Tentative name Rei Ayanami) experiences a life without orders and learns things like hello, goodbye, and thank you. Meanwhile Shinji, is still just nonfunctional after the trauma of losing Kawrou and being the one to start Fourth Impact.
Seeing Toji, Kensuke, and Hikari as all having not just survived but overcome the apocalypse of Near Third Impact was very satisfying after being given no clues during 3.0 about where they were. The fact that everyone is just accepting of Shinji is very refreshing though they most likely have no idea that he was the one to trigger Near Third Impact.
Eventually Shinji returns to a semi functional state after Rei’s repeated efforts to interact with him lead him to ask why everyone is so kind to him after everything he’s done to which she replies it’s because they like him. From there, the Wunder comes to pick up Asuka and Shinji to reunite the band so to speak so they can go off and stop Gendo from triggering “Another Impact”.
Stepping away from the plot for a moment, the music of the movie felt like a big letdown. Going from 1.11 to 2.22 to 3.33, it felt like there was this increase in quality each time, with the 3.33 soundtrack being something that I listened to on repeat countless times. But there was no track on 3.0+1.0 that came even close to tracks like “God’s Gift” or “God’s Message”. The music wasn’t bad, it just didn’t stand out like it typically does in the movies and shows. There was a version of Decisive Battle as there always is, but it just wasn’t memorable. I guess the Paris stuff was the most memorable?
The action was the other big letdown. Starting from the Paris battle, it felt like there was such a big insistence on just like sheer overwhelming numbers of enemies. While impressive on a technical level that they are able to animate so many objects on screen at one time, I just felt like I didn’t care at all. You only really need 1 really strong enemy to convey a sense of overwhelming odds, which is what each 1 on 1 Angel battle in the show and movies does. When Asuka fights the Eva Series in End of Evangelion, they only needed 9 enemies to create what I think is one of the greatest fight scenes in anime. So when there’s just a cloud of enemies that Mari and Asuka have to fight to get to Unit 13, it just feels completely pointless.
I think by the time they get to the final battle, I just wasn’t following the lore anymore. Beyond “stop Gendo” there felt like there was no emotional undercurrent driving Mari and Asuka unlike in EoE when Asuka’s fight comes after this massive discovery that her mother was with her in the Eva the whole time.
Maybe my issue with these fight scenes is that they serve no greater purpose other than “fighter 1 is trying to get to X so enemy 1 is going to stop them.” Obviously there’s this greater purpose that WILLE is trying to prevent Gendo from starting instrumentality, but on the level of the characters themselves, there’s no growth or discovery or challenge that either happens before the battle or during the battle.
In the show and other movies, the battles steadily break down the characters and expose all of their unresolved personal trauma. Although it all starts as this physical battle, it steadily progresses into a mental one. The whole appeal of these battles to me is not the fight themselves but that they serve as a catalyst for new discoveries both for the characters and the viewer. I say all of this focusing on Asuka’s and Mari’s fight near the end.
But there is indeed some of this content in the Gendo and Shinji fight.
As the two begin to fight, Gendo explains that the fight isn’t actually happening in the place they are seeing but that their minds are creating the space they are in. At one point, the two stop and they come to an agreement that this fight can’t be one based on physicality and Shinji says “yeah let’s talk”. So where does it miss the mark? Maybe the movie just completely lost me by this point.
As the movie went deep into why Gendo did what he did, it felt like Hideaki Anno was inserting himself deeply into this character. My general understanding of Hideaki Anno, is that he was super depressed during the making of the TV show, but after getting married, his mental state improved dramatically. Obviously I have no idea whether the marriage “cured” him, his improvement probably preceded the marriage. Gendo talked about his shift from “wanting to be alone” to “wanting to do nothing but be with Yui”, followed by his despair of being left alone again as his motivation for all he had done. As he described this it felt like this had come from a real place, at least the alone to together part and the imagining of what it would like to be alone again.
I have no real insight into whether there’s any truth to what I’m saying but it could be as the years have gone by, Anno sees himself more in Gendo than in Shinji. This might help explain why there is so much time spent on Gendo in this final movie. 3.0+1.0 didn’t necessarily do something radically different than before though. In End of Evangelion, Gendo admits that he shared some of the same rationale as Shinji that by closing off his heart, he avoided being hurt.
I mentioned before that I thought the reason I wasn’t enjoying the latter half of the movie is because I wasn’t following the lore. But that seems inconsistent with my experience with 3.33. When I watched 3.33 for the first time, I had no idea what was going on with the state of the world, the “failures of infinity”, “adam’s vessel”, why Asuka says “Lillum”, or really much of anything with Unit 13/Unit 8. But despite all my questions and confusion, from the beginning space battle to the end where Asuka drags Shinji out of the entry plug, there’s this emotional connection that you can still make with the characters that I just didn’t feel was there in 3.0+1.0.
3.0+1.0 introduces 2 new impacts “Another Impact” and then “additional impact”, an anti-universe, the pillar of Golgatha, Gendo as an Angel, and a new lance in the final half hour or so of the movie. This isn’t necessarily out of character particularly when you consider 3.33, but in my search for reasons why I didn’t like this movie as much, I keep coming back to the question of lore and whether it’s getting in the way of the characters. With 3.33, obviously I went back later and read a bunch of forum postings discussing the movie and I haven’t yet done that for 3.0+1.0, so perhaps after I clear up some of my confusion, I’ll see it in a more positive light as I’ve come to see 3.33 in a more positive light.
Thrice Upon a Time
Before watching this, I read the book “Thrice Upon a Time” because I thought there would be some connection between that and the movie. I was somewhat disappointed when my theory about time travel or time looping didn’t really come to pass. I’m also not 100% sure given the coffins of Kaworu on the moon.
The book centers around the invention of a computer which can send messages back to the past. A seemingly not very useful tool until the characters realize that by committing themselves to sending messages in the present, they can receive messages from their future selves. There are further developments then that those messages are coming from just one of many possible futures. In the end, the characters make the decision to essentially wipe out their current universe in order to rewrite the events of the awful outcome of a vaccination drive gone wrong.
So there is some connection there to Evangelion when Shinji makes the decision to rewrite the world into one without Evangelions, but unlike the book there’s never really any discussion about how the present versions of the characters will cease to exist. Characters that fell in love in the book based on a chance meeting are entirely likely to never even meet in the new world and they wrestle with that dilemma.
Shinji X Mari
Am I really just upset that Shinji and Mari somehow ended up together? I can buy Rei x Kawrou and 3.0+1.0 sets up Asuka x Kensuke, which I guess I get that a lot can happen in 14 years. But Shinji and Mari have almost no interaction together on screen. I guess the whole “rewrite the world without Evangelions” causes Mari to just be inserted into Japan as a normal child who grows up and meets Shinji along the way? It just feels like the writers just looked at the characters and said “well, these two are the only ones left so I guess they are together.”
“What do you want, Shinji?”
I mentioned at the beginning that I’m not really sure what I wanted from the final movie. Did I want it to be the more optimistic ending of the TV show or the more pessimistic of End of Evangelion? Did I want Shinji to continue to be this traumatized individual who never really escapes his past or grows?
There was a time when Evangelion was comforting to me in the knowledge that people had created this show after struggling through some of the same issues I was struggling with. And for a time, it became a coping mechanism to watch this show as I treated it as some kind of sedative to alleviate my own suffering and that watching it would somehow make me come to my own realization. Beyond that, I guess it changed into more of a respect that this is a unique property that people recognize as ground breaking and I’m part of that group that “enjoys” it. I’ve enjoyed sharing/forcing it on people and seeing their reactions. But as the years have gone by, has it just become this thing I was attached to in the past?
When I was younger, I was super into Star Wars. I had all these books and Lego sets, I went to see Episode II for my birthday, and the Star Tours ride, even in 2012 was a super emotional experience. But I went to Star Wars Celebration (an annual convention) in 2017 after having dreamed of going as a child, and it was abundantly clear that it just did not hold this same deep adoration that it once did. Maybe watching all the critique videos got to me or I had just moved on. Like Star Wars or RWBY or any other thing that I was super into, has Evangelion entered its own phase of “It’s a show I really like, but I wouldn’t describe myself as a fan first and foremost.” Like if someone asked me if I was a fan of Star Wars or RWBY, I would say, “well, it’s complicated.” But at some point both of those would have been top of my list for evaluating whether I would even want to be friends with someone.
I’m sure Hideaki Anno is glad to be “done” with Evangelion. From interviews I’ve read in the past, it sounds like it’s very emotionally taxing to work on this story for so long. Once I saw the tag line of “bye bye all of evangelion”, I joked with a friend that what would be truly revolutionary would be to just completely stop all Evangelion merchandising. Like just end it all completely. There’s too much money involved for any one person to be able to make that kind of decision so it will never happen. Would Anno do it if he could just to be done with it forever?
But I guess this kind of soul searching is what it must be like for any other large property to come to its conclusion. Or like when a band you love breaks up or suddenly stops. Like what now? Where does all the time and energy go that you used to spend on this thing? For Anno, it’s making more live action movies of the things he enjoyed as a child like Ultraman and Kamen Rider. For me, maybe it’s just more live music and idol groups.
From here, I feel like I need to watch the movie again and do my usual digging in the Evageeks wiki to try to figure out what I’m missing. Or I just come to accept that this movie didn’t really satisfy me.
This feels like an unsatisfying end to this post that I don’t really know how to end, but that’s life I guess.