Girl help why do I want to explore the dynamic between Karen Wheeler and Joyce Byers in a fic
Girl help why do I want to explore the dynamic between Karen Wheeler and Joyce Byers in a fic
Okay but Byler is so funny if you think about it from Hopper’s perspective He went from Mike Wheeler making out with one of his children, to Mike Wheeler making out with one of his other children, all while Nancy Wheeler is dating one of his other other children. Also PLEASE CAN WE GET MORE HOPPER / JONATHAN INTERACTION??? THATS HIS STEP SON!!!
Hopper: addressing the squad: And if you have any suggestions feel free to put them in the suggestion box.
Joyce: But – that’s just a trash can.
Hopper: It sure is!
JUST AN FYI
I’ve been seeing a lot of jibber jabber on here regarding the leaks. Nobody official is gonna confirm the season 4 leaks. That defeats the purpose doesn’t it? Which is why they’re called leaks?? Nobody is coming up with “theories” or “interpretations” these come straight from sources that have worked on set. It’s not the first time in history people like that come forward to a fandom and give them the tea. I think y’all need a reality check and just shut up about the leaks if you don’t like them.
im literally the byers’ personal bodyguard (yes, el too)
𝕃𝕀𝕂𝔼 𝕠𝕣 ℝ𝔼𝔹𝕃𝕆𝔾 𝕥𝕠 𝕘𝕖𝕥 𝕒 𝕤𝕞𝕒𝕝𝕝 𝕤𝕥𝕒𝕣𝕥𝕖𝕣 𝕗𝕣𝕠𝕞 𝕁𝕆𝕐ℂ𝔼 𝔹𝕐𝔼ℝ𝕊 𝕠𝕗 𝕊𝕋ℝ𝔸ℕ𝔾𝔼ℝ 𝕋ℍ𝕀ℕ𝔾𝕊. 𝕃𝕖𝕟𝕘𝕥𝕙 𝕨𝕚𝕝𝕝 𝕧𝕒𝕣𝕪, 𝕡𝕝𝕠𝕥𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕞𝕒𝕪 𝕓𝕖 𝕣𝕖𝕢𝕦𝕚𝕣𝕖𝕕. ℙ𝕝𝕖𝕒𝕤𝕖 𝕔𝕠𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕙 𝕪𝕠𝕦𝕣 𝕞𝕦𝕤𝕖 𝕚𝕗 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕒𝕣𝕖 𝕒 𝕞𝕦𝕝𝕥𝕚 𝕓𝕝𝕠𝕘.
I have this dumb headcanon that Joyce - is in fact - allergic to jelly
please know that you can always send me asks about anything stranger things related. whether it be a random question, intricate theory, or just want to vent about something, your thoughts are always welcome here.
The soft way Hopper looks at Joyce
Euphoria × Stranger things.
Ok, if we all agree not to give a shit about dates, chronologic eventes or/and cannon events on this two specific tv shows i have a prompt i would like to work on to.
Let me introduce yall my oc for this specif shot.
•Eleanor (Lea) byers
The only girl between the byers siblings, middle sibling ofc.
She was lonnie's favorite, as bad as it sounds, when lonnie and joyce got divorced he did everything to get custody of her. Only her. He didn't gave a shit to will or Jonathan and thats very much cannon.
Not that he really care about her, but taking Lea away from joyce knowing tha she was very attached to her only daughter looked like a very good revenge.
No. He did not took care of her, he send her to a boarding school the second he manages to get her in. Well.. the second she could get herself in actually, boarding schools are expensive and.. yeah he wasnt going to pay for it so.. her being a straight A student had to pay it of, when she got herself a scholarship (wich didnt took long tbh) she was nowhere close to home, or her dad
She wasnt allowed to go back to hawkins on summer (or anytime really) so she had to try and bond with someone of lonnies family, and she succed.. kind of
Only one person liked her, aunt Claire. She was lonnies half sister, grandpa side of the family and the only person in lonnie's side that wasn't mean to her, she was actually kind and caring, she was like a breath of fresh air, and she remind lea so much of her mother, she couldnt help but love her to the core
Well Lea got tired of the boarding school, she didnt have friends or like the teachers, and honestly, she felt like living on that dark blue/green-ish twilight filter, not in the aesthetic way, everything just looked so...sad? Out of life? Anyways she wanted to go back home. But she couldnt, a few more other things stoped her besides lonnies possible anger, but lets just focus on this possibility, cause its already alot of damage.
Aunt claire got to know about this and they figure a way out of this without upsseting lonnie. Lea would live with her for a while in East Highland. She would go to school there and lonnie would send his regular amount of money to help. It wasnt much but lea would still have someone kind by her side
Aunt Claire wasnt rich, but she wasnt poor, and they made a deal, lea could spend that money, or save it for college, it was hers and hers only, she even could save it to go back home for a whille on summer if she wanted, aunt Claire would lie and make this happend.
• i picture lea being rue's friend, they would be fucked uo togheter and help each other
•as every byers seems to have a artistic talent, i would imagine her as a singer, she is really good at it but dont talk about it or show it of
• she really likes fantasy books and says that reading others people problems makes her forget of hers, but she do enjoy some classics
• i feel like once she knew how to do it she would like to do make up, those colorful and glowy/ glossy ones, it reminds her of will's drawings.
•she like to take pictures of everything, because of jonathan, she hopes to show to him one day.
• being friends with fezco and annoying him to make him teach how to shot
•never done drugs, rarelly drinks, she goes to the partys for the music, and goes home earlier because she dont like to deal with drunk people.
•straigh A student vibes going strong, she really likes history classes, dont like math but its good at it cause she likes validation.
•i feel like she would go to hawkins during the events of season 2
• she would be a lesbian, or a bissexual with women preferences, mostly lesbian vibez
•middle child right? But she was never left out, never happened on the byers family, they were kind and caring with each other, she misses that everyday..
I would love to work on this plot and i want to know if anyone would read it
Hopper: I prevented a murder today.
Joyce: Really? How'd you do that?
Hopper: self control.
Ok so I actually thought of this theory probably about a month ago but deleted it because no one really saw it and I thought it was just that bad, but some friends of mine told me that it probably just didn’t reach enough people so I’m doing this again. CSA WARNING
If you go back to season 3 episode 6 at 26:22, Alexei explains to Murray, Hopper, and Joyce that the gate was opened once but then got closed, but then the Russians started to open it (presumably because they were fascinated, something said by doctor Owens in season 2 episode 4).
Alexei says something that catches me off guard every time I rewatch it. He phrases that gate getting reopened as “healing” which I find that as a weird way of wording it. Almost like a scar…
So after thinking of that, I instantly thought of Will (one big reason is that he could potentially be the creator of the upside down (creating it because of all of his trauma, mainly Lonnie)). He’s still healing from the trauma but homophobia (?) is stopping him from doing so
Now @never-tell thought of @kaypeace21’s theory of Lonnie committing csa upon Will, and she mentioned that Will would also still be healing from that even years after, and not just physically and emotionally. And the Demogorgon and Mind Flayer somewhat did that to him again
The way Will describes how the Mind Flayer got him in season 2 is very unsettling and almost sounds like he’s describing s/a abuse. Also the way the Demogorgon got to him in season 1, and Joyce and Hopper had to pull it out of him is just what the fuck
#ahead of his time #fashion icon #you cant blame joyce ok look at her wardrobe
Science is neat, but I’m afraid it’s not very forgiving. STRANGER THINGS (2016 - )
thinking about soulpets au again today
still gotta make decisions about
So if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to share them!
guys let me know where u think steve harrington fits under the girlboss-malewife spectrum
(I got the teleplays (official scripts) off 8flix, which I will link here.)
So I spent some time looking through the last moments of the s3.ep8 script, and I think it’s actually more byler-coded than we thought. Obviously, scripts are only meant to suggest the briefest moments, the directors job is to explain the lines, and the message/tone, and the actors job is to portray this.
At first I was disappointed by the Byler scene after reading the script, especially since it felt very bland/lifeless and there was no sense of “suggestiveness” like there was in the final scene (but, as I explained earlier, this is because it’s just a script).
Anyways, here’s the scene:
It’s short, compared to the other goodbye scenes (more on that later*). However, the first line, “Mike is helping pack”, implies that they’ve been in here together for a while, alone. In the final take, though, we see Will walking into the room Mike’s in. It’s still possible they were in here together before, since the script doesn’t say anything about Will entering his room. It’s also possible there’s more to this scene than we were shown (I couldn’t get the video file onto this, so I’ve just linked someone’s video of the scene-credit to Itsstranger on yt).
The main thing I’ve realised when watching this scene is the extreme contrast between it and the mileven goodbye. Mike’s facial expressions (which we know are pretty iconic) are completely different. In this scene, we feel that the two characters really understand what the other is saying, even with the deeper subtext that comes with their dialogue.
“Whoa. Dude, that’s the donation box”, Mike says (let’s note that Will ignores him when entering the room, and even begins to leave, but Mike still insists on starting conversation). Mike saying this, and the (concerned?) facial expression that comes with it shows that over the course of the 3 months, he has obviously seen how he was wrong to disapprove of Will still wanting to play D&D, like a “little kid”.
Will proceeds to say, “I know, I’ll just use yours when I come back”, pausing for a beat, then saying, “I mean, if we still wanna play.”
Let’s decode this a little more. Will’s first line is pretty blatant, but his second one could have multiple subtexts. “If we still wanna play”, could also mean “If we still wanna hang out together”, or, “If we still wanna be friends”.
To which Mike is quick to answer with, “Yeah, but”, before this next line, he glances to the side, hesitating, “What if you want to join another party?”
Will then looks him up and down, and says, smirking, “Not possible.” The exchange ends here, but their last expressions say much more than the prior dialogue.
This is Mike’s face after Will says they can still be friends:
This is Mike’s face after El says she loves him:
but more on that scene later.
also, may I mention Will’s smug little grin as he struts away
if you make that face with ur friends, I think there’s something you need to tell them.
Anyway, the point I am trying to make is that this, in my opinion, was a flirty interaction. In fact, I can’t recall one quite like it in any other moments of the series (At least, not between Mike + someone else, or Will + someone else)
Now, there are only two other personal goodbyes shown in these last few scenes. These being between Jancy (Jonathan + Nancy) and Mileven (Mike + Eleven). Both of these exchanges are between ‘couples’ or ‘ex-couples’, depending on where Mike and Eleven stand at the end of the season (we aren’t properly told). So, it makes you wonder why they would include a Byler goodbye as well. To anyone lazily watching, the scene wouldn’t really add much to the conclusion, and it’d just be more of a filler. But, this is the Duffer brothers, nothing is without value, and every little detail makes an impact.
AND, not forgetting that their interaction. was. flirty.
Anyways, I’m going to discuss the Mileven goodbye, because boi is there a lot to unpack.
I won’t show the script for this scene because it’s quite long, but I noticed that the settings says it’s El’s room, when it’s actually visibly Will’s room (because of the unique wallpaper, and the teddy bear is also his-more on that later)
Here’s a link to the scene (credit to M Entertainment on yt)
I’ll mention here that in this show, bears represent Will, and during this whole scene El is holding the bear (Will) between them. I’ll link the analysis for that here (slides 77-79).
Mike also says “And I was thinking you could come up here for Christmas,” quickly adding, “and Will, too”. Showing that even when thinking about El, he’s subconsciously thinking about Will (sort of).
He then says, “I was thinking Christmas Day could be super fun, because we’d have cool new presents to play with and, uh...sorry. That made me sound like a seven-year-old.” We all know that Mike has conflicting feelings linking ‘childhood’ and his ‘younger years’ to times when he felt more inclined to Will, and how he now dismisses them as just being that; childish. I’d also like to highlight the use of the number 7 in this show, and how it has many connections to Will and Mike (separately and together).
(Also, Mike seems like waay less of a jack*ass at the end of season 3)
This is how the next few moments were scripted
I feel like with all this reference to ‘presents’, there could be some symbolism behind it. Since he links being childish to liking presents, and he also links being childish to liking Will, I have a little theory that presents = boys/Will.
Mike also has a very sheepish grin when he says, “I like presents too”, so I dunno.
After this, as El walks away, it keeps cutting to Mike’s face. In the script, it says:
Although it’s possible Mike is angry with himself for acting so ‘childish’, it’s quite plausible that his reaction is him feeling that he needs to end things for real with El. After this, it just keeps getting gayer and gayer.
(El is talking about when he confessed his ‘love’ for her)
is this really something you would deny/pretend to not know about if you didn’t have conflicted feelings about it?
“heat of the moment stuff”, as in he didn’t actually mean it?
let’s take a lil looksies at this kiss...
doesn’t mike look soooo into it?
and his expression as she walks away?
okay, thank you, that concludes my notes on the mileven scene
but WAIT, there’s more
During Hopper’s letter, there are specific instructions in the script to show Will and Mike at specific parts of the voice over. There’s also lots of subtle queercoding throughout the whole letter, but I will talk about the scenes that are obviously referencing Mike and Will.
As he says this, Mike is at the forefront of both shots
It literally zooms in on Mike in this next bit
Board games also have a huge significance within the group, and it’s a special aspect of their bond. However, it zooms in on Mike right before Hopper says “And I miss playing board games every night”.
In the next part, Hopper reads,
“But I know you’re getting older. Growing. Changing”
(zooms in on Mike AGAIN as Hopper says ‘changing’, whilst everyone else bikes away)
As Mike bikes away, Hopper begins to say “I don’t want things to change”, and it cuts to Will. TO WILL. Jonathan even gives him a little look I-
“So I think that’s maybe why I came in here,” it says, and Mike literally walks into his living room, obviously upset.
“To try to maybe, stop that change” Karen sees him, and he immediately walks in for a hug.
It continues, but these shots of Mike were not random. And it parallels this scene (in which Mike is crying about Will, not El.)
ANyways, thank u for listening, I am done. if u want me to ‘analyse’ anymore byler/other teleplays/scenes I am happy too.
have a great day, and happy stranger things watching :)
here is a link to the trailer:
*I discuss content from s1,s2, and s3, so this does contain spoilers*
this is pretty much a summary of everything i’ve seen on tumblr/notcied myself about the teaser
*buckle in cause this is pretty long*
It starts with El reading out (what we can definitely assume) is a letter she has written to Mike. I’ve heard a statement theorizing that this letter is filled with lies, however I don’t completely agree with this.
The first line is “Today is day 185,”, which I have seen people speculate whether or not was a mistake due to the timing of the seasons (I don’t remember exactly, but they also had reasoning to believe the timing fitted perfectly).
We cut to a shot of what we can only assume is the Byer’s residence (a fairly large, suburban, two-story home- which from previous seasons we know Joyce would not be able to afford on her own). This leads to speculations that maybe the government wanted to suppress suspicions about Eleven’s connection to the Starcourt Mall debacle by moving her away (and every other suspicious thing that’s happened in Hawkins), or something along the lines of that.
“I think I have finally adapted,” she proceeds to say as she places a (handmade?) figurine of Hopper into a diorama of his cabin. This could represent that she has come to accept that he is gone, and is seeing the good in his “death”. Hopper was her true father figure, and someone who really loved her. She learnt so much from him, and she is adapting to the fact that he is now “gone”. There’s truth in this, but we can also ponder on what else she could be adapting to. Although it hints at being Hopper’s “death”, it could certainly also be that she is adapting to living in California, since that is the ‘main’ premise of this teaser.
After this, we see a shot of Will working on (a painting? or possibly a poster/project?) in his new room. In the background, on his wall, we can see a Boys Don’t Cry/The Cure poster. I’ve heard that this song was sort of a gay anthem in the 80s, so this could possibly be subtext of Will’s homosexuality.
In the next shot is Jonathan, smoking weed and watching something out the window. This could be anything, if not just a quick shot to show his face (unlikely, but still plausible). He may be waiting to see Will and El’s ride arrive.
We then see a series of shots of Argyle picking up Will and El in his Surfer Boy Pizza truck. The phone number on the truck reads 805-45-PIZZA. Upon calling, the happy birthday theme plays, which fans speculate could link to Will’s birthday being in Spring, and possibly included (at the least mentioned) in an episode.
We then cut to a ‘Countdown to Spring Break’ banner, identifying there are only 2 days left of school. During this Eleven says, “I even like school now.” I am uncertain about the meaning of her saying ‘now’, as if she had experienced schooling before (which we know she has not). UNLESS, she is considering her time at the lab an educational period of her life. Maybe enlightening, in the way that she learnt more about her powers.
Before this next part, I will mention the “heroes” project that was supposedly leaked. El did a diorama of Hopper, her ‘hero’, and Will did one of Alan Turing, his ‘hero’. Obviously Will did not choose Alan Turing randomly, so let’s look into him a little more. He was, an article states, an “English mathematician, logician, and cryptographer, credited with breaking the Nazi Enigma code during World War II”. This is not a person widely out-there for a “nerd” to be interested in, but let’s look even further. “In 1952, he was arrested and charged with “indecency” after a brief relationship with another man”, and took his own life in 1954 by poisoning an apple with cyanide and eating it. The rainbow apple logo also is said to link to him, which we have seen before on this show.
This does not necessarily confirm things, however, but it could mean that Will is becoming more open about his homosexuality/feelings, and beginning to accept it (adapting, as said in El’s letter).
In her next line, El says, “I have made lots of friends,” This is clearly wrong (or, a lie), as students are shown to be blatantly bullying her and laughing at her.
“Even though, I am ready for spring break.” This is proof that she is not enjoying school as much as she had said earlier, meaning it was, in a way, a lie.
“Mostly because I get to see you,” she then states. In all honesty, this made me slightly uncomfortable for a number of reasons.
-the way she said it was VERY flirtatious for a 14/15 year old, and it sounded as if it lacked real emotion, rather than just teenage desire.
-her and mike are not even confirmed to being back together romantically
But, I may be looking into it too much since my head is literally clouded with byler atm lol
Anyways, we now get our first glance of Mike. Something undeniably obvious in this scene is the THIS WAY sign pointing right into his open closet. I hate to say it, but it’s still fairly possible that this was just a coincidence, and something the set designers didn’t look into that much (not discrediting them, because I do have strong belief it could be a hint at Mike’s homosexuality).
The first few times I watched this scene, I assumed the obvious; that the paper in his hand was El’s letter.
HOWEVER, her letter is very short. Definitely not long enough to fill the stack of paper in Mike’s hand. Maybe half a page, at the most. So this brings me to believe that this was a lead-on, a teaser within the teaser. In fact, it is not uncommon for trailers to be misleading about dialogue and where they correlate with certain scenes, especially in Stranger Things.
The expression on his face is also a fairly new one (possibly just due to Mike’s actor, Finn Wolfhard, being three years older), but it’s definitely there. In the past three seasons, he has managed to replicate facial expressions almost exactly, which have all been important. E.g. the smile he makes when he sees Will has remained practically the same throughout EVERY season. So I’m sure this was a purposeful detail included by the Duffer brothers.
The expression, in my opinion, has a faint smirk to it. Like he’s seeing/reading something he likes and wants to hear. He seems comfortable with whatever is on the paper. But, it’s also mixed with a sort of disbelief, or shock.
Overall, I get the vibe that he’s kind of realising something he wanted all along, but he hadn’t expected it to be so.
(i feel like ron reading harry’s tea leaves lmao)
Which makes me very curious about what exactly he is looking at.
“We will have the best spring break ever”
This is the biggest lie, more from the directors/writers than from El’s character herself, but literally everything about the rest of the trailer points to this statement being wrong.
The music crescendos, intensifying, and we IMMEDIATELY cut to a scene of Eleven looking unhappy in the back of a car.
Anyways, the next bit is just a bucketload of notes/observations about all of these quick cuts (in order of appearance). If I missed anything, or you have a better explanation than me, FEEL FREE TO SAY SO, because I don’t know any more than you do. With these, I’m also hoping to bring light to things u may not have noticed (since I missed a lot originally).
The cut right after us seeing Eleven’s disappointed face is of a roller-skating rink, which I absolutely cannot think of anything to link it to. The setting is very vibrant and positive, with fluorescent colours and happy skaters dancing along to some music.
Next we see Joyce, confused, opening a large box (package?) and pulling out a Russian doll. There are speculations that this is a message from Hopper about his whereabouts, or something similar to that.
The next few scenes pose many possible outcomes/things happening. We see Jonathan running up a flight of stairs (identifiable by his blue shirt-shown again in the next scene) towards gunfire (or some kind of flamethrower thing?). I’ve watched it over in 0.25x speed and still can’t identify the person shooting, however these are the things I can see:
-They look like a male
-Their slightly wrinkling skin leads me to believe they’re somewhat middle-aged
-They have a fairly heavy head of thick black hair (similar to Mike’s but neater, straighter, and shorter)
-They are also wearing a white shirt
(It could be Murray)
After this we cut to a scene of Jonathan and Mike in WILL’S BEDROOM, with possibly someone standing to Mike’s left (maybe Will, but it’s impossible to tell). It is quite clear that even before the (gunfire) begins, these two are shouting at each other, arguing over something (passionately- we seem to be seeing a less level-headed side of Jonathan this season. As well as Mike just being the stubborn, sassy dude he is). First, it looks like something is being thrown through the window by the way it gets an obvious hole, but I’m not an expert on how bullets affect windows (i believe that gunfire would shatter the whole window, rather than just smashing a whole into it as if something was thrown directly at a specific part of the window). However, as more bullets fire (shown by the specks of light) the hole grows, which makes sense. But, I don’t think it would be too far-fetched to wonder if something was thrown through the window first.
In between these two shots is a scene of Murray taking off his headphones, looking shocked.
We then see three cars speeding out of frame on a highway. Two are the same, which leads me to believe they are government or cop cars (could also be cars belonging to people who belong to an organisation, e.g. hawkins lab). What is interesting, though, is that the one on the right reads “prison transport, keep back”. I assume this one contains El, since later shots hint at her being kidnapped, and the first shot looks as if she’s in a car.
The two cars at the front have their brake lights on, and the cars are depicted to be swerving to the side, which could mean something (probably Jonathan, Will, and Mike, and Argyle in the Pizza van) is blocking their way.
We then see the feet of a lady stepping out of a car (we cannot tell what car this is). She is wearing black heels and long, navy pants that reach just above her ankles. We could assume she is stepping out to ‘have a word’ with the cali gang for getting in her way. I also particularly like how after this they cut to the feet of a roller skater spinning in circles, which in my opinion felt very smooth.
This leads to El being circled by laughing girls. The expression on her face is honestly kinda heartbreaking, and makes me wonder if she feels helpless against them without her powers, or if there will be a similar dynamic to that during this season.
There’s also quite a juxtaposition of her compared to the colourful background.
We then see a doorway in the middle of the desert being opened, which could mean multiple things but I’ll leave for you to indulge in.
The next shot, though, is of a birds-eye-view of this “doorway” place. There are about 10 people standing in a line in front of the door, with four cargo cars parked (hastily, it seems) in front of it. There’s also a helicopter, either landing or taking off I can’t really tell (I did try to do a bit of research on this- but to no avail- I may have not looked hard enough lol). I would assume it’s landing, and they’re bringing El to this pretty heavily guarded doorway (which I assume is the entrance to some underground lab).
The next shot is of the Surfer Boys Pizza van dramatically kicking into gear. Meaning this is probably some kind of chase scene. I am assuming these people have taken El, and now Jonathan, Argyle, Mike and Will are trying to stop them and get her back. This could also explain the look of distraught on Mike’s face in this next shot, as the ‘baddies’ are possibly escaping with Eleven. Will also looks very concerned in this scene, but I feel that since he never got a chance to really know Eleven he is less ‘traumatised’ / affected by her being taken away, hence the softer expression (or maybe im looking into it too much again)
People have also mentioned how close they are in this scene, speaking of it being a ‘byler’ scene or that they are possibly holding hands. i feel like at this part of the season (probably early-middle), this wouldn’t have happened yet, also this feels like a really weird moment/scene to be holding hands in. I feel like it would be much more emotional than this intense, dramatic scene. Honestly, I hope byler will be canon in season 4 but we just gotta wait and see.
I feel like I should also mention how this is the same colour shirt that Mike “put on and could not stop looking at Will in”. I will link @beepboop358 ‘s analysis of Mike’s clothing here and here (slides 132-138ish).
sorry that was just a quick byler dump lol
This is also followed by a shot of Will swinging his head back to look at something (Mike is out of frame-and it’s actually possible he’s gone/injured). His face is similar to the one above, but resembles Mike’s expression more. In fact, it makes me realise that nothing extremely dangerous (other than the cliff-jump scene) has actually happened to Mike yet, so I wonder if this season will change that.
Next, we see a shot of the County Line Cafe. I don’t really know much about American geography, but I’ve gathered that ‘County lines’ are sort of similar to cities within states (counties?). And I assume that the ‘lines’ are the borders between these cities? I’m not sure, but if so that could mean they’re travelling in this one (which we already could expect because of Hopper’s whereabouts). There’s also 4 people in suits standing near the cafe.
Next, we see (what I believe) is El being dragged into the prisoner transport vehicle by two men in black suits. She doesn’t look as ‘angry’ as I would think she’d be, so it makes me wonder if she’s somewhat okay about being taken by these men, or understands why she’s being taken (just a theory).
I’ve done a really bad job using time connectives in this lol, anways...
The shot after this is
I am not fixing it.
The shot after this is of what looks like a tunnel in a secret Russian base, but it could be aNyWheRe. There is tons of gunfire and people ducking out from behind block-things-that-i-can’t-think-of-the-terminology-for.
Immediately following this,
hey that’s a little better
Immediately following this, we see five men coming out of the smoke (presumably followed by more). It would make sense that they are in the tunnel, and we are seeing it from another angle. I cannot tell if they are holding fire or not, because it’s such a short clip. If this is a Russian base, it would make sense that this is the American army infiltrating it.
The shot after this is
sorry, i got lazy
The shot after this is of our cali gang practically dodging gunfire. I’ll put in an image so you don’t have to listen to me describe it.
If you didn’t notice already, the characters in this shot are (from right to left), Will, Mike, and Jonathan. The man to Jonathan’s right is, again, unidentifiable. It is definitely possible he is the man from earlier, but I wonder why he would now be defending them (after literally flamethrowing them earlier). Each of them seem to be pulling the other out of the way. It also looks like someone is in the doorway, and there is definitely gunfire happening.
It then cuts to someone turning the volume to 7, which people have analysed has many connections to Will and Byler. I don’t think this would be a coincidence, or random number, and if not for its connection to Will then probably still something just as interesting.
We then see a shot of the doorway setting (except looking out from the perspective of the doorway). In this shot we can tell in the distance it’s quite hilly, but otherwise very sandy (from memory, I think people have speculated that this is def California). In this shot we can see the helicopter is kind of hovering (maybe moving forwards), but definitely not moving vertically. The cars are moving forwards, though.
The shot after this is very interesting (i feel like ive said that a hundred times).
It looks like the same setting/place as the doorway, which leads me to theorise someone has blown up the doorway. I can’t tell what those white things are on the ground, but they kind of look like sacks. There’s also the person standing before the fire. It’s hard to tell what their reaction is to seeing this, since we don’t see their face and it’s so far away, but we can probably cancel out them being any kind of government-related person due to the clothes they’re wearing looking very casual. White pants, a blue flannel shirt, with a white shirt underneath, and dark (could just be the silhouette) hair. This persons’ build also looks quite masculine.
After this is cuts to black, and the music returns to its originally joyful tone.
Thank you for listening to my analysis, it’s actually the first I’ve posted on tumblr (or anywhere, for that matter). I don’t know how I’m meant to end this, but if you want me to do more, contact me ig?
happy stranger things watching