loki series showrunners stop talking about trauma in interviews challenge
It’s been two months and I’m still fucking PISSED THE HELL OFF that Marvel/Disney completely SCREWED LOKI OVER LIKE THAT.
And now—NOW—I have to deal with ABSOLUTE IDIOTS telling me he’s a narcissist. AFTER WATCHING LOKI ONLY CLAIM THAT AFTER BEING KICKED IN THE BALLS FOR HOURS.
I’m sorry. WTF??? WHAT THE FUCK????
How is this called writing again? Someone needs to be FIRED in the hiring department because that WAS REALLY BAD.
If I have to explain to one more person that LOKI IS NOT A NARCISSIST JUST CUZ MARVEL/DISNEY TELLS YOU HE IS, I will begin to kill cats every hour until someone dumps Mike Waldron’s body in a lake and films him drown.
I am tired of this shit.
Loki series criticism links under the cut.
realising that Julie Plec and Mike Waldron are the same type of writers who romanticised abuse, gaslighting and torture is just fabulous
I don't think it's far reaching to assume that based off of how Mike Waldron sees/treats people with the trauma that comes with emotional/mental abuse and neglect and the trauma that comes from gaslighting
he's probably one of those human trashcans who also thinks that people with depression "just need to suck it up" and think suicide victims are "cowards" and "weak".
A person with that sort of view of mental illness shouldn't be fucking writing at all, let alone for a character known for being traumatized and being a goddamn posterchild and case study for depression and neglect!
Man, imagine if season two of Loki manages to undo all of the damage Mike Waldron and Kate Herron did in season one?
I mean I know it won't happen but could you imagine?
Just a thought I had while reading through some more analyses of different scenes from The Show: if the "healing" and "character development" you or the writers are claiming the character is going through is under duress (ie, people thinking that Loki is 'healing' because of how he reacted to being tortured by Mobius and then saying he's a narcissist after seeing Sif) it ain't fucking healing.
'Healing' under duress is not real healing!
(just like how "therapy" without consent actually qualifies as TORTURE; ie, what fucking Mobius does!)
You don't keep stabbing a wound and expect it to close! Likewise you don't keep making new wounds and claim the person is getting better!
I think it's time that we're all honest with each other:
The LOKI show isn't about Loki. It never has been and it was never meant to be.
It's not even really about Sylvie or Mobius (though they DEFINITELY have more of the spotlight than the fucking TITULAR CHARACTER)
It was always just a stepping stone Marvel needed to have in order to introduce the Multiverse. That's literally all it was ever meant to be, it's the only reason it exists.
If the show was actually meant to be about Loki (or even Sylvie or Mobius) then Marvel would have actually made it about him. It would have actually explored his history, his trauma, his struggles with self-hatred and internalized racism.
(and because I know some fucking assholes will try and say it; NO that torture scene wasn't therapy and it wasn't him addressing his issues and neither was him getting gaslit by literally every other character in the entire fucking series and if you think the show did a decent job having Loki 'explore his trauma' then kindly fuck off and Google what therapy ACTUALLY is)
It would have fucking addressed his Jotun heritage.
But instead, Marvel just needed to use it as a tool to introduce the Multiverse. It's why they stuck a talentless writer and director who couldn't give two shits about Loki on it.
this has been sitting in my head for a while
(also I came up with a more accurate version)
Anyone who had hopes for season 2 of Loki - let go of it! 😝
Mike Waldron/Kate Herron/Mobius/Sylvie: *opens their mouth*
Sometimes I feel bad for being so hyper critical of the show because "well how are they going to put in all of the character arcs and development needed for what they attempted to pull off in 6 hour-long episodes?"
But then I remember that GOOD OMENS managed to tell a complete, succinct story with unbelievable character arcs and development, gave us arguably the greatest enemies-to-friends-to-lovers love story of all time (and was able to flesh out Crowley and Aziraphale's history together WITHIN THE COURSE OF 30 MINUTES), and it was satisfying and respectful to the established fanbase of the book while also managing to be its own thing.
So yeah. It is possible to tell a great story for an already established fanbase over the course of six hours.
You just have to actually give a shit, do the research, respect the fanbase, and put in the amount of effort a piece of work like that deserves.
Mike Waldron did none of that, no one on that show did.