Zack: North High will destroy you at the Menkies.
Miss Jenn: I'm not threatened by your cheap theatrics.
Miss Jenn: But it's nice to see you, and the fourth version of your face!
Zack Roy, holding Carlos hostage: Give me $10,000 and we’ll give him back.
Carlos, offended: You think I’m only worth $10,000?!
Carlos, taking the megaphone: Give me that.
Carlos: MAKE IT ONE BILLION DOLLARS!
Gina, outside: CARLOS, SHUT UP!
Oh, so are you two related? You look FAR too young to be his mother. An aunt perhaps.
As the kids are coming home soon, Diane offers to help tidy up at the farm with feather dusting and hoovering (showing she’ll fit right in eh?) as does Zak (in return for ‘for a leg of lamb…’) while Jack is in the midst of harvesting. Sarah comes up with the idea of taking over Roy & Kelly’s cottage as, when it’s time for the hearing, she can affirm there’s room for the kids with her. Chris agrees to renting the cottage to the two of them (he was having a meeting with Lady Tara). Lady Tara’s reaction to Richie and Sarah 😂. Chris gives Richie and Sarah a year before they end (they’ll be done in three 😭).
Sarah: Jack was a bit off in the pub earlier.
Richie: What’s new.
Sarah: I hope he’s not gonna be difficult about this access. I thought we turned a corner but… it’s Jack for you.
So on the HSMTMTS Discord we've been joking about Lily secretly being Miss Jenn and Zack Roy's secret daughter but while watching Liv and Maddie, I thought of this:
They both look sort of similar? But parents and kids don't always look the same so that's believable I guess. They also have very similar personalities. They both care a lot about their families, their both determined, and they've both had star roles of some kind (well not really Miss Jenn that's sort of the point.)
Obviously I'm ignoring Maddie but I'm mostly thinking about Liv here. I like the idea of Lily secretly being Miss Jenn's daughter and that's why she was so determined to beat her at the Menkies but this Liv thing sounded cool and I feel like a genius for thinking of this don't mind me-
Scenes we were robbed of or missed potential in season 2 of HSMTMTS
- Watching everyone’s reaction to Nini coming back, especially Ricky
- Redlyn, Seblos, and Rini trio couple’s date. Some alternative duo dates could be Redlyn and Rini (makes sense since Ricky and Red are besties), Rini and Seblos, & Seblos and Redlyn.
- I hated the YAC storyline, but it had potential to be more interesting had Tim spent more time with it. Since he didn’t expand in the YAC storyline, it should have been scrapped
- Not enough EJ this season. Like honestly I was shocked that he had little impact on the plot in the first like 5-6 episodes despite being one of the four main characters. At least he eventually got an approporiate amount of screen time, but still it wasn’t enough considering this is likely his last season
- We still don’t know how Rini originally got together the first time or who asked out who first. You know, all that jazz, which is so odd. I mean, at least we know where their first kiss occurred.
- Despite what Tim said, we really didn’t get to see the background characters shine at the level that he said they would tbh. Sure, they had their special moments but it would be one singular moment and never again or at least not for a long time. Examples: Seb performing The Climb, Ashlyn singing Home, Kourt singing Tale as Old as Time, etc.
- Nini reacting to Carlos posting the Rose Song without permission
- I feel they didn’t really play out the Seblos fight well since they didn’t really show too many scenes of their tension arising. It started in episode 8, but it was so brief. I wish Tim spent more time on them feuding so it didn’t feel so sudden when they’re being hostile with one another. I’ve met some people that thought it was fine though, so maybe I’m wrong
- The entire North High performance. I can’t get too upset with this one since I’m sure it’s for the sake of time, covid, and saves us from watching the same musical again, but little clips would’ve been cool because I’m forced to just take what the characters are saying word for it
- Why did they not explain why Nini wasn’t the rose anymore? I knew she couldn’t play The Rose Song for the Menkies and all, but why can’t she play the rose itself anymore? I mean, I guess it’s just easier, but a canon explanation would be nice
- The entire play just felt so rushed, and I hate that we didn’t get to see Ricky’s transformation at all! I at least wanna see them bow to the audience! I realize it’s because of Covid though, so I try not to get too upset
- They did NOT use the North High kids for the full potential this season except for maybe Lily. Antoine is perfect, and I hope he stays!!! Zach was barely in the show and could’ve been off it without there being too much of a difference tbh. Howie was important, but he could’ve been used more for sure
- I hate that he’s pulling a whole “Nini is getting a major offer and possibly leaving again” storyline. He could’ve come up with something else. It comes off as very lazy to me
-How the hell did Lily get Ricky’s number??!! Like how did he not freak out more?! I would’ve blocked her on everything!
I will no doubt add to this list when I think of more things Tim missed out on, but for now this list will do.
im sorry but i just do not care about ms. jenn's love life oops
this is entirely random and based on absolutely zero information… but lily is zack’s niece right? like i know on these shows teachers get overly involved with their students socially, but why were the two of them getting coffee together? how was lily just able to get the district to grant her a transfer especially so quickly and more than halfway through the year? it’s because she has a family member on staff, the acclaimed broadway actor zack roy…
I'm glad Zackey Roy is out of Miss Jenn's options now, because he is such a dick. I've never liked him. I was very annoyed with him since the first trailer of the season. This episode he literally insulted her, told her she wasn't good enough, and then she danced with him???? I was so disgusted. I hope we see less of him now because he's not worth it at all, byeeee👋
Can we talk about how freaking insane ‘Around You’ was?! The VOCALS? The DANCE ROUTINE? 😭😍 Not just saying this cuz Miss Jenn/Kate is my fave, but this was defo my fave song of S2 so far
north high has got to be doing their show illegally because how is it that they’re in the same district and doing the same musical? even if it was possible for them to do the same musical (which it isn’t irl) the cost of the production license alone is over a hundred dollars (if I’m not mistaken) so I don’t think even a more well off school could afford to change musicals that quickly since the arts are so underfunded. somebody’s rich parent or zack has to be paying for it because no school would give them extra cash just so they could change their musical without a good reason to. north high just keeps doing stuff that’s technically illegal and at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if they went inside the east high theatre and said the scottish play.
“Tell the Talons to lock Gotham down”
Crime Syndicate is back and multiple Talons is canon baybeeeeee. Catch me as I once again roll off the deep end.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN! i wanted to do more this month but i wasn't able to do so at the end i only drew some of my oc’s dressed as other character's but still i hope someone likes it and stay safe, next year i'll be prepared!
Thank you for all the suggestions! I had too much fun with this.
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After reading the Flynn Lives ARG message boards, I actually have some questions about some of the members.
Like who is RecycleOrDie? He is a pivotal member and the 3rd longest running member. He seems to be an ex-ENCOM employee who knew Flynn and was pretty high up and in the know of a lot of stuff. I was thinking maybe he’s Mathew Roth, from The Next Day, but not sure it exactly fits. He joined in late 92, a year after two of the the others, ZackAttack (Roy), and Admin. He seems to be this important character without a name who really should have been named or addressed somewhere proper. Cause honestly, more characters associating with Kevin Flynn and the main cast, the more realistic it is.
DonutLuvver is also an ex-EMCOM employee from around the end of Flynn’s disappearance who knows ZackAttack (Roy). Zack (Roy) even calls him ‘esteemed colleague’. I would have so loved to have had an actual name for this character as well. With the conversations I don’t think Mathew Roth fits the criteria for this character.
I feel like with the info that these two know Sam but hadn’t stayed in touch or haven't seen him in years. Probably after all the failed leads, appearances and tips during the 90s.
And who is CindyGirl? She doesn’t seem to like ZackAttack (Roy) too much at the start but keeps it civil, but DonutLuvver told them to stop flirting, after a comment about Zack’s (Roy’s) message (I asume dm) being the only one she’s looking forward to getting a message from him for once. Zack (Roy) replies ‘Thats the nicest thing you’ve ever said to me’, meaning something has gone on before what we see in the ARG. If DonutLuvver knows ZackAttack (Roy) in rl, then maybe the flirting comment was a jab? Like, what does she mean then by what she said? What should I take from this about ZackAttack (Roy) as a person?? Has this just not aged well? Also she is older than Sam, as she refers to Sam with has ‘lost much in his young life’. No one closer to Sam’s age which is in his 20s would speak like that?
Then there is MeganRules, who seems to be someone the ENCOM crew here know and they know Sam as well, but they only joined up late into the 90s, 98 specifically. They might be a woman, given some of their comments about guys. I feel perhaps this person may only share an online connection though, given that they aren’t quite as clued in as the other ex-ENCOM employees. Also they may know more about RecycleOrDie’s rl circumstances since they took SkateitOut’s joking comment about him maybe dying super seriously, calling it ‘Out of bounds’. Or perhaps they have had an experience in their rl that they can’t deal with and project it onto others.
And who is JuniorG? Like I think the casual reference name drops in these fake ids is just Disney Easter egging or putting a ref to promote Legacy in it, with Junior. But I have to wonder if Dillinger Junior infiltrated Flynn Lives with a fake persona to keep tabs on them. JuniorG always seems to never be on time or have a flaky personality almost to the detriment of the others. But Zack (Roy) would have caught on since he would have seen everyone’s faces for the id badges he was pumping out. (though it doesn’t explain how Zack (Roy), a former employee of ENCOM would not have been caught immediately with a fake ID himself) So that kinda nips that idea, unless it was a fake photo he gave him and then reported it to ENCOM upper management (Though i don’t feel like Ed Junior would bother the way he acted in the movie). I think it’s just coincidence.
Who is Admin? They’re the Admin yet their date they first joined is actually after Zack’s (Roy) by a month. ISOlatedThinker (Alan) joined in 93, after even RecycleOrDie, who was 92. Is this Lora? I find that the evidence doesn’t support it since she doesn’t seem to be involved and some of the conversations between ISOlatedThinker (Alan) and Admin don’t suit their relationship. But being an Admin, thats a pretty powerful position, meaning they must be someone Zack (Roy) and ISOlatedThinker (Alan) trust a lot. Unless its one of them with a double account. But I don’t by this hypothesis.
And above all else, why am I getting invested in a long since dead ARG Now of all times?